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Re: Look for my first setup

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Both my sons are 6'4", but if you're talking about my fishing boy he has 4 Sage rods, 1 GLoomis, 1 Targus, 2 Fenwick. They are all 9' 4 or 5 wt's with the exception on 2. One is a 8' 1/2 3 wt and they other is a 10' 6wt. He hasn't used the 3wt in a long time and uses the 6 weight on lakes. That should answer the question.

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Re: Look for my first setup

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35 years ago I started fly fishing after winning a 6 foot, 5 weight Orvis fiberglass rod at a TU meeting. This was the only rod I ever owned until about 4 years ago when I bought a 9 foot, 5 weight for upper Delaware fishing. The 9 footer immediately became my go to rod on all streams.

I have since added an 8 foot 3 and 4 weight. I still have the 6 footer and a couple time each year I take it out for old times sake but I really have come to like the longer rods so much better. I have found there are very few streams that are so small and tight that I cannot fish them successfully even with my 9 foot rod.

The 2 biggest technical mistakes most people make when they begin fly casting are they drop the tip too far backwards and forwards and they don’t generate enough line speed.

With a smaller rod (say 7.5 foot) your line is starting 1.5 feet closer to the ground/water than with a 9 footer so you really need to keep the rod tip between 10 and 2 o’clock when casting. Dropping the tip past these points will bring the tip/line closer to the water/ground and then add in the lack of line speed and your line will be slapping the water in front/back of you or getting tangled in the brush in back of you if trying to casting close to banks. At least with the 8.5 or 9 footer the extra 1 to 1.5 feet of rod length can help compensate for less than perfect technique when just beginning.

Posted on: 2009/1/8 9:09


Re: Look for my first setup

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I addition to teh swap forum (whiich is a great deal) Cabela's has some fantastic deals in the "bargain cave." Like $200 rods for $100.

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Re: Look for my first setup

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GreenWeenie hit it perfect. Most beginners have trouble keeping the line high enough. A 9ft rod will help more than a shorter rod. The easiest way to learn is to use a long rod on reasonably big or open streams with dry flies (can see the drag, and fish response to it). You can branch out from that....

Posted on: 2009/1/8 11:43


Re: Look for my first setup

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Support your local fly shop. Again, screw the big box stores and suport your local fly shop. Thats what they are in business for. To help. Go and talk to someone who can talk to you in person. Tell them you are a novice and just starting out. Explain what type of fishing you want to do. Where most of fishing will be. Tell them you budget and what you would like to spend. They will help you. Cast rods with different actions and lines. Only you will be able to "feel" what you like. And you will know it when it happens. Going to a fly shop doesn't mean that you can't get a sweet deal and setup. Heck, they might even throw in a line for free, help with your casting stroke, free clinics, flies and even put you on some fish with some insider local water knowledge. Don't think you get that from these big box stores. Go and see for yourself. Don't listen to our opinions on setups. Everyone thinks they know what is best because it worked for them. This is a sport where you can find what equipment suits you. Larry, Moe and Curleys gear setup may not be you. Just my 2 cents.

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all I know is that this post was made 3 days ago... the original poster has not logged in since, and we have debated 2 pages worth of posts over his new setup. my conclusion...WE ALL NEED TO GET OUT AND FISH!!!


That is my final verdict, and I'm sticking to it.

Posted on: 2009/1/8 13:48
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Re: Look for my first setup

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Here's my .02 from a fly-fishing newbie...

I posed the same question several months ago and received basically the same answer: a 9' 5wt rod would be a good starting setup for the fishing I do (small limestoners, etc.). I picked up an Okuma 9' 5wt rod that has served my purposes well. It casts well and has medium to fast action. There are many places that I've fished that I can use it and in my non-expert, beginning flyfisherman's opinion, the 9' 5wt is an excellent choice for a first setup. Line it with a weight-forward floating line and you're good to go!

I found that with one of the smaller limestone creeks that I fish, the 9' 5wt seemed to be a bit much, so I purchased a 6'3" 3wt. This rod has served me well with the smaller creeks but it doesn't have nearly the action of my 5wt. With a tight canopy or little to no back casting room, the shorter rod seems to be a good option. I would not recommend a rod this short or even a 7' rod to a beginner. In my opinion they just don't allow the user to get the feel of a "loading" a rod.

Here is the thread from a few months back when I inquired.

Posted on: 2009/1/8 13:57


Re: Look for my first setup

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Quote:

wetnet wrote:
Don't try to soften me up with the Phillies. My younger non- addictive to fishing is looking to play BB at Penn State as a pitcher in a couple of years. All 6'4" of him. His Mother, who I won't mention has been fierce since he grew so big and so fast to protect him from over zealous coaches. He is more mature now and his arm is still in tact. He'll never go pro but Man he throws a wicked 3/4 side arm and always has. When bases are loaded they call him in. He is the ice man. Like everyone else he justs wants to play ball!

Speaking of that. I have 2 sons that are the best of friends. They don't like the same things.

I hope I did good!


Well wetnet, the Phillies should soften anyone up.....They are the World Champs!!!!!!

Good for you with your 2 boys I wish them the best of luck! I guess anyone getting ready to have children soon would be very lucky to have not just 1 but 2 very talented sons! May the sun be upon their face's and the wind behind their back's and may god hold them in the hollow of his hand.

Cheers!

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Re: Look for my first setup

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You made me blush!

They will always be #1 in their Mothers eyes. I try to support them without going over the top....which I have at times. I've reined myself in and continue to do so more and more. My baby is in college next year and my oldest has changed his major from Civil Engineering to watershed protection and stream restoration, while at the same time planning how he can save enough money for the Team USA Fly Fishing adult tryouts. I'm always wondering what to do. Always a ride. Always my baby boys.

Posted on: 2009/1/9 21:35



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