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Re: Leaders, Dry Flies

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When treating the furled leaders, be warned that if you squeeze too hard while pulling it through your fingers you'll make a wicked tangle on the tippet end as you pull the furls "apart" or "open," and then let 'em close back up.

Posted on: 2010/12/20 10:24
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Thanks. I have a couple of the Blue Sky furled leaders and they tend to sink after they've been in the water for a little while.



Most of the Blue Sky Furled leaders are made from thread I believe and will absorb water eventually if not treated with some kind of floatant. I make my own mono furled leaders. They are simply thin mono twisted together by hand. Most of the furled leaders made commercially are made by using a jig and twisted thousands of times using a power drill or similar machine. They tend to be stiffer and curl up if you pull on them or break your tippet on a snag or fish and it whips back.

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The Bluesky furled leaders I started with were a sort of greenish tint nylon something.. Don't think it was thread, and would assume it was mono.

Posted on: 2010/12/20 10:38
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"Premium nylon" (thread I believe)


http://www.blueskyfly.com/products.html

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Re: Leaders, Dry Flies

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Not a fan of the blue sky furled leaders.

The loop/tippet connection dongle comes undone all the time.

Posted on: 2010/12/20 10:59


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Most of the furled leaders made commercially are made by using a jig and twisted thousands of times using a power drill or similar machine. They tend to be stiffer and curl up if you pull on them or break your tippet on a snag or fish and it whips back.


Exactly. And I don't exactly trust them on large fish either...

Afish,
Were the furled leaders tough to make? I wouldn't mind trying my hand at one if they're better than the commercially made leaders...

Posted on: 2010/12/20 11:00


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bam, they're super easy. If you can twist two pieces of mono together you're golden. There a youtube video I'll post in a minute.

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Afish's method is better, but I'm not smart enough to do it...I should go back and re-attempt it now that I've gotten my chops down.

The Singapore Twist video that will be posted shortly is my method... I've refined it from starting with a stupid long piece of 14' mono and s-l-o-w-l-y furlign it and doubling it to get multiple thicknesses to just using shorter pieces and making loop to loop between segments.

So, I've got a piece that's like 2 to 4 strands, then an 4 to 8 strands, and there may or may not be another one up top. It was easier than going knotcrazy like Afish at the time.

But now that I type it, it seems overridingly stupid.

Triple surgeon's knots for each segment, they don't put in that tell tale kink, btw.

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Afish method + triple surgeon here.

4lb test trilene, and 6lb hi vis stren for nymphing butts.

Posted on: 2010/12/20 11:15


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yikes... and I don't like hand tying leaders. Sounds like a good winter project.

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yikes... and I don't like hand tying leaders. Sounds like a good winter project.




lol....it looks complicated, but I can furl a leader faster than I can blood knot together all the segments of a knotted mono leader. Also one spool of spinning line is all that is needed, not many spools of line of different diameters and stiffness like used for conventional knotted leaders.

Most of my furled leaders have lasted for several seasons. Try the simple version first (two diameters) it works well. You can tie the multiple section ones if you feel like experimenting and messing around with them. Give it a try.

Posted on: 2010/12/20 11:53


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Here is the same thing afish posted but in a higher quality incase you have a hard time reading it.

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Thanks Sender. How did you save that jpg to get a better quality image?

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I just took a screenshot.

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