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Re: Help me update my gear

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Ha, yeah I don't know where the advice has come from, but I've heard it multiple times. I guess it makes sense in that there isn't a tremendous amount of difference between a 5wt and 6wt etc. this is if you want to be the most economical.

I can agree with the price comment to an extent. I haven't fished a ton of rods, but my $120 rod was much better than my $50 rod. In the same vein, the $300 was better and the $750 is the best. If you get into a dollar:performance discussion then I agree that there is diminishing returns across the spectrum.

I'm flipping a bit on the 10' length. I was steelheading today and landing fish by yourself on a 10' rod with a 10' leader is awfully difficult. That might be just for big fish, but I was stretching big time to get them within net striking distance.


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Ha, yeah I don't know where the advice has come from, but I've heard it multiple times. I guess it makes sense in that there isn't a tremendous amount of difference between a 5wt and 6wt etc. this is if you want to be the most economical.

I can agree with the price comment to an extent. I haven't fished a ton of rods, but my $120 rod was much better than my $50 rod. In the same vein, the $300 was better and the $750 is the best. If you get into a dollar:performance discussion then I agree that there is diminishing returns across the spectrum.

I'm flipping a bit on the 10' length. I was steelheading today and landing fish by yourself on a 10' rod with a 10' leader is awfully difficult. That might be just for big fish, but I was stretching big time to get them within net striking distance.


I'm a little confused on that last part. You feel like it would be easier to land a fish with a 9 foot rod and a 10 foot leader? I feel like a longer rod is an advantage in that situation.

Posted on: 12/22 23:32


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Shorter rods are better for fighting and landing fish.

Posted on: 12/23 9:49


Re: Help me update my gear

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I've never really noticed a difference between long and short for landing fish by myself. Then again I'm not a steelheader.

Posted on: 12/23 14:35


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I got a 10' rod for steelhead a few years ago. I've had no problems landing or fighting. I like it every bit as much and maybe more than the 9' rod I was using.


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Ya either need a longer net handle or do like I do and yank em into the shallows and get in front of them, wrestle them into submission.

Seriously, unless you are catching 20” fish I ain’t buying the “rod length makes a difference”argument. And then I say longer is better. It cushions the abrupt surges and runs to also helps a bit to get the rod below the fish’s head when downstream to apply side pressure. In addition during a quick run toward you it can pick up line faster than a 9 footer.

I don’t see a downfall to the 10’ rod for steelheading or landing big fish. Plus, when nymphing it is a great advantage reaching across currents and mending.

So focus your rod length on catching the fish first, then consider the landing downfalls if any.

My set up is a 10’ 7wt and 10’ 6 weight. I far prefer them over the 9’ 7 wt I started with. But it was a tip flex and I used to break fish off trying to turn them, just not so much anymore.

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I am with Dave w. I think a shorter rod makes it easier to fight and land fish. I see a noticeable difference landing fish between an 8 and 9 foot rod let alone a 10.

I often fish 12 foot leaders and I never use a net unless I'm in a boat so I think that makes a big difference. This is also why i cut the loops off my fly line and nail knot my leader to my fly line. I have no problem getting the nail knot through the guides.

I used a 10 foot rod for steelhead for a long time but I've switched to a 9 footer and only use a 10 with sinking line. I don't nymph for steelhead anymore but I agree a 10 foot rod is much better for that than a 9 foot rod.

Posted on: 12/25 20:24


Re: Help me update my gear

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Is there anyone that bought a 4wt. 10ft. and regretted it because it was too long to fish with?

Posted on: 12/25 22:23


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Here's a Helios 10' 4wt on sale here by a member for $350, if anyone is interested.

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