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Fly rod build...need input

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Hello all. Im looking at building my first fly rod and im throwing around the idea of making an all black one. Have the matte black blank and looking at an all black parts kit. The cork would be normal though. I cant find any pics online to see if id like it so I was wondering if you guys had any thoughts and or pics of one. Becker, thought i read in another thread, you had one but cant remember. Might be a shot in the dark but its worth a shot.

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If I wanted all black I would black wraps with and tiny trim wrap of a color of choice and then a larger black trim wrap.

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Kern, i thought about doing wraps like that. The blank is matte so i thought a glossy thread would counter and give it a little funk but not to much to divert from the theme...

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I've had the same idea for an 8' 4 weight this winter. I'm pretty sure I saw flat matte guides in the Mudhole catalog. I think they were Fuji.

Curious, what blank did you choose? I can't decide between MHX, North Forks Composites, and Rainshadow. I like the MHX but it doesn't have a dull finish.

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I have an older mode st. Croix avid which is a matte finish and I used dark charcoal wraps with a couple wraps of red and then about six wraps of grey thread. Looks really good.

I think once you put finish on the wraps they are going to be shiny anyway. However, the charcoal wraps may help with this.

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Miller, there was a special at hookhack.com for a 9'5wt matte black blank, blank. It was like 40 bucks and they sell an all black components and glues, etc kit for 60 bucks. Im fine with the finished threads having a shine, like i said it would break up the matte finish but still keep to tge original ninja fly rod idea :)

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kern, i love snake brand guides. They have them in black nickle. Not completely black. But well worth it for the performance of the rod.

Miller, out of the three choices of blanks. I would go with MHX. Can't beat it for the price, good taper, good action. North fork are very stiff. My 5wt feels like a 6wt. I am not a big fan of Rainshadow. they are cheap and not a good taper on the blank.

it also depends are you looking more for aesthetics or performance.

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Quote:

h0ll0whill wrote:

it also depends are you looking more for aesthetics or performance.


100% performance. Any aesthetics are simply bonuses. With that said, any other blanks you'd recommend to compare the MHX to with similar price, taper, weight...

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Miller,
In my opinion, for graphite, i stick with MHX. I built a 3wt and a 7wt switch rod on their blanks. Feel you can't beat it for the price.

The 3 blanks you mentioned above i have built on. I didn't even finish the Rainshadow because i didn't like the feel.

You can go with a more known company like Sage or Winston. But i don't have any experience with them. I have heard that the taper and action are true on the Sage. But you are going to pay 2x to 3x for it.

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Kern, could you post a pic of the st croix with the charcoal guides? Id really like to see the look of it.

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I hope this works.

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I know the lighting is terrible but, I hope this at least gives you a good idea.

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Kern, nice! Looks great. I see the different wraps. I would stick with just black as this is my first build but the dark guides look great with the blank. Thanks for posting a pic.

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J55, the nice thing about building your own rod is that you can pick and choose the wrap colors that make you happy. If you want to test out what a wrap may look like, wrap it on the butt of the rod that will be covered up by the grip. That gives you a lot of test area, and you don't have to worry when it comes time to remove it, if you need to remove it.
All black would work just fine as well as a subdued trim wrap. Granted the epoxy will make shiny spots at the guides but a little rub with some very fine steel wool after everything has set up for a week or so will take that shine right off without doing any damage.
Sam

Posted on: 8/2 8:57


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Just as a side note: I always add trim wraps on rod that I build for myself because that's what sets them apart from factory rods.

I just don't want you to regret down the road because it's your first rod.

My biggest tip is to make sure you take your time and compress the thread with a tool or you thumb nail every ten turns of the thread or so. There is no need to rush.
I wrap all on color first and then switch thread which does help with time. A lot of the time I will do the main color, stop for the day and start the next session refreshed and ultimately make less mistakes.

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