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Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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I saw a $75 switch rod kit on that auction site, i might just have to learn this whole two handed casting thing.

Posted on: 2011/11/1 10:13


Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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The time it takes to build a rod depends on the builder, the epoxy and the finish.

I have done entire rods on a Saturday and dried them overnight and they were ready Sunday morning.

However, typically you are looking at 6-10 hours of active time depending on how fast, nice, tight, or complicated your wraps are.

I prefer 30 minute epoxy and allow it to cure overnight most of the time. While I am waiting for the reel seat to cure and/or the reel seat and handle to cure I file down the guides' feet and cut rubber bands out of surgical tubing (these will hold the guides in place). I do other things like mathematically find out the guide spacing and wind the rubber bands on the top section(s) of the blank.

Wrapping will take the most time though.

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Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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Another question, what do you typically spend on all the materials that go on the blank?

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Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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I bought a complete kit in the Cabela's Bargin Cave for $15.

My blank came today, upon review I don't want any of the stuff in the kit except mAybe the green thread. And the tip top won't fit. Damnit.


Posted on: 2011/11/1 21:55
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Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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The price of materials really depends on how fancy you want to get and how much you want to spend.

Guides are between $1 and $2 each for decent guides ($15 total).
Reel seats are between $5 and $50 ($35 will give a good reel seat).
I wouldn't cheap out on a cork handle; seeing as this is your connection to the rod and will be in your hand the entire day (like $20).
Tip-top is like $2.
Thread is like $2 a spool.
Ferrule cement is a couple bucks and last forever.
Surgical tubing is a couple bucks, but last for many rods.
Epoxy is like $4 at a hardware store.
Rod finish depends on the brand and the amount. I prefer the premeasures cabelas packets and they are like $6.

Posted on: 2011/11/2 11:16
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Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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Who sells tiny pieces and doesn't rape you on shipping? IE, I want a tip top, but I don't feel like spending $6 to ship a $2 item that weighs nearly nothing.

Posted on: 2011/11/2 13:27
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Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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It's better to pick this stuff up yourself, in person.

I like ordering "premium" kits; they usually come with better components, reel seat, and handle. The Cabela's primium kits are like $15 more than the standard kit. No brainer.

Places also offer guide kits that have everything, including multiple tip tops and a couple extra guides.

Heck, places even offer reel seat and handle kits.

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If only I had one of these mythical "places" you speak of.


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Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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Mudhole.com

Posted on: 2011/11/2 21:26


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If you plan to build more than one rod it's a good idea to get a tip top guide or use a micrometer to measure what size top you need. I like the guide that mudhole sells because it tells you exactly what tip top size you need without figuring out fractions. That way there is no back and forth about what to order and you get all the components in one shipment and not have to do that $6 shipping for a $2 piece (been there).

Posted on: 2011/11/4 9:44


Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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Cabelas

You can't beat this. Has everything you need and isn't over priced like som motorize wrappers or high-end wrappers.

Besides I like turning the rod by hand; you can feel the tension better and see the wraps better. Allowing for you to make adjustments as you go.

Posted on: 2011/11/4 11:05


Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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I know people are going to say that they can build one a lot cheaper and that is true.

However, I can tie tiny flies and I can catch/throw a ball, but I'm not handy.

And, I bought the $40 version with just the wrapping machine. then I pieced together taper files and bought a drying/wrapping motor for $25 discounted and it's not the right height to finish the rod (remember, not handy).
Heck, if I get Cabela's gift cards this year I might by the entire kit.

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Gfen,

Does the wrapping jig in the kit that you got basically consist of a flat board, two upright pieces of wood cut into 'V' shapes lined with felt, some dowels, and a tread tensioner?

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Cabelas

You can't beat this. Has everything you need and isn't over priced like som motorize wrappers or high-end wrappers.

Besides I like turning the rod by hand; you can feel the tension better and see the wraps better. Allowing for you to make adjustments as you go.


Grossly over priced, IMO. I could build one of these for 1/10th the price, if not less....

Posted on: 2011/11/4 11:32


Re: Considering fly rod buliding

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The more I look at it, I would buy the $40 rod wrapping machine and the $75 motor and chuck.
Sure you would have to piece together things like the tip-top sizer (which I don't use, I just find one that fits), furrule cement, and reamers, but fussing with fabricating a chuck (like I did) is a pain and when a rod slides out over night while drying it's not a good morning the next day.

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Absolutely agree it can be a lot faster and depending how much time you have on your hands, cheaper to buy a jig. My only thought is that the first couple rods that you build you can get by with quick DIY solutions.

But if you're going to continue to build, purpose built tools make life a bit easier.

Posted on: 2011/11/4 11:38



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