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Re: Allen Xa Fly Rod

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Just admit I am right, we are not talking about glass or any other #OOPS# your actually into. We are talking common sense.

Posted on: 2011/8/24 23:24
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Re: Allen Xa Fly Rod

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but you're not right, you're wrong. its an incomprehensible decision to me because i find it silly. i desire neither of these objects.

if i wanted a shorty, i'd have done exactly what i did. bought the 5'9" cgr for a steal, and banked a hardy rod for future invesment and use in a middle-of-the-road length (7'), and done it all for less than what the scott cost, including the reel. admittedly, i already had that, but its the point of it that counts. it cost me $5. and its quite a looker. needs to be understood how to tune the spring. i imagine its doable, but the idea eludes me as to how. nice solid clunk of a clicker, though.


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also, may be turned utterly silent with a switch. that's some high tech feature there.

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Re: Allen Xa Fly Rod

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Yes just keep talking about stupidity. you could really help this guy, such he is your bud. however, you are just gonna ramble on.



HERITAGE: Please call your bud and talk some sense into him. I do not know how many times you and I have had convo's about Allen.

Posted on: 2011/8/24 23:36
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Re: Allen Xa Fly Rod

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i already did. i suggested several times to not spend money on anything. however, he has his own mind and choses to do something different.

to continue to say that over and over would be irksome to him, to those who read this, and to my fingers. he has taken my partially solicited advise, and made a decision of his own.

also, i don't think a 5'9" 3wt CGR is going to be of much enjoyment for him, frankly, its sort of too softish and short for me, but I just need to find the right place. I oculdn't pass it up, I imagine it'll go away quicker than it'll last. How often does one really need a rod that short?

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I figured I could always return the rod if I do not like it....but if I do end up liking it then I saved some money instead of buying the Scott.

I understand that the Scott is the better rod, but for the same price I got a their Alpha reel along with the the rod....$234....

Many people like their reels from what I have read and if they had a problem it was quickly taken care of....so I took a shot in the dark on their rod. If it does not work out then I could always buy the Scott later (used or at a store if I can find one again)

Sbecker.....if it pains you that I purchased the Allen why did you not say something before?

Gfen....you and my wife would get along great. I know that saving money is good, but I sold a guitar....and wanted a new rod and reel. I am not even spending all the money from the guitar on this....its just a little bit of what I had come in.


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don't look at me, i was done curbing your desire on this one. have at it.

Posted on: 2011/8/25 0:25
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You Pm'd me and asked me my evaluation of my A3. I could not answer the question, because i have yet to even cast it. If you would have said " I am thinking about a Scott or an Allen, what do you think?" I would have directed you to all of the positive great reviews of the Scott and pointed you in that direction. You never told me your other choices.

Posted on: 2011/8/25 0:30
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You Pm'd me and asked me my evaluation of my A3. I could not answer the question, because i have yet to even cast it. If you would have said " I am thinking about a Scott or an Allen, what do you think?" I would have directed you to all of the positive great reviews of the Scott and pointed you in that direction. You never told me your other choices.


I know what I sent you...I just could have sworn I saw you on this thread before and was wondering why you waited till now to say anything...if not and this is the first time you read anything on here then I understand.

May I ask what you have against Allen? Like I said....almost all the reviews of their reels are excellent......so what would be so wrong with their rod? I know Scotts are handcrafted AND made in the USA...in the end it just came down to the fact that I can get both rod and reel for the price of the scott.....If I do not like it then the Scott rod will be the next place I turn.

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I might have browsed this thread quickly, but really paid no attention. You PM'd me today and only had a quick chance to respond, because of work/college class. Once again. You asked a simple question and I gave a simple answer.

I have nothing against Allen, other then some really slow bad service. his products that I have purchased have been fine. I have even considered buying an Allen reel for my Scott. However, if given a choice between the A3 and a brand new, not really consumer tested, start up company fly rod. My answer would have been buy rod, get cheap reel until you can afford better. The rod is the real source of pleasure. The real is a complete line holder on a 3 wt. you will never need a drag. I love fancy reels. I am like a kitty kat when it comes to fancy. Yet, I even wanted to get a click and pawl Reddington for my 3wt.

Posted on: 2011/8/25 0:53
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Since I already communicated with bassman, I'll make it public.

As to the Xa Allen rod - I haven't seen one yet. I doubt Justin would put his name on a pooch. Who knows - this new rod could wind up being the hottest thing around. There's no risk in trying it, so why not?

I'm thinking of ordering the same rod as bassman. I KNOW I'm gonna order a Trout 3/4 very shortly. A 7'6" 3wt 3pc Xa rod and a Trout 3/4 would be sweet. I'm not terribly worried about it casting 60', as it would be used for tight quarters anyway.

Relax Steven - you did OK.

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Edited by Heritage-Angler on 2011/8/25 8:45:03
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Bassman,

My advice to you, and any beginner (heck, even veteran) FFer - go to a fly shop(s) and cast a bunch of rods before you choose. Reading all your posts, you buy most of your stuff on-line. While that's okay for some stuff, fly rods, especially should be cast to judge which works best for you. You chose between two rods and never cast either one.

My basement is littered with rods I bought when I started FFing. Many of the rods (and reels) I was never really happy with to begin with, and I ended up looking for and buying another and another....

I finally wised up and cast a bunch of rods until I found one that I really liked, and I still have and fish most of those rods. If I did that from the beginning, I would have been much satisfied, and in the long run, you would have spent much less money.

Why not visit Heritage Ed and let him show you what he has to offer. Make it your mission to cast as many rods as you can, until the differences between them become apparent, and you are able to make intelligent decision as to what rod is right for you.

HE may even give you a free casting lesson.....

Posted on: 2011/8/25 8:46


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Heritage-Angler wrote:
I'm...ordering the same rod...


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Re: Allen Xa Fly Rod

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afishinado wrote:
My basement is littered with rods I bought when I started FFing. Many of the rods (and reels) I was never really happy with to begin with, and I ended up looking for and buying another and another....


I think its amusing so many of us say this, yet never bothered to practice it...and, I imagine, if put into the position to do it again, still wouldn't.

I still tell my wife they're like golf clubs, and I need a whole set...

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You asked a question, and I am here to give you an answer not turn your thread into a discussion haha. Justin falls into the category of more of a friend to me than a business owner. (Not enough of a friend to give me free products ;) whom I have gotten to know a little over the last year/year and a half.

I have been fishing the 5wt XA rod and what i am pretty sure was an XA 3wt I purchased off of him a year or so ago for about $200.

Heres a quick overview for ya.

The 5wt is incredible, i use it streamer fishing for stripers,smallmouth, and trout. In all honesty you will have no trouble casting down to your backing with the rod, it has a little more backbone than all my other 5wts, I am almost considering putting the rod into a 6wt category.

For the creeks around here in PA I do not usually use the 5wt XA for nymphing, Like i said it is a bit overkill IMO for most of the trout I have around my area. Windy days, it is a treat throwing drys, A buddy I fish with, who has been FF for over 50 years, and Whom I consider the best fly fisherman of ALL TIME, says it would be a great rod for taking out west.

Now I know I am only saying good things about the rod, well here comes some of the cons.

The rods guides have ovalized over time. I fish everyday, and put most of my products through hell. Justin knows about the guides and im sure he has taken note on what is now the new XA rod, (black version in there new pictures, I have a green version)
It does not bother me at all, but I know it is a problem.. The rod still casts great even with the guides being all.... not round..

On my rod, the reel seat is a wood grain finish that does not go with the green at all, It looks better on that black version of the rod (looking at the pictures) but It seems to shy away from the new look I feel they are trying to bring into fly fishing. I guess you could say, out with the old traditional look on things and in with the new.

Thats it for the 5wt
Cons...
Ovalized guides
not the best looking rod out there
You may be deceived thinking your buying a 5wt then you get a 6wt rod

Pros
Throws your flies miles
Good backbone
one of Skibos most used Rods


Ill keep this short on the 3wt

I got to fish the 3wt for a few days..... I was pulling my line out and it snapped. Totally my fault.

The 3wt weighs about 1oz and was a suuuuuuper fun rod to use before I broke it. I am a little worried tho, the jump from the 5wt to 3wt is a bit drastic. Its like going from a 2by4 to a drinking straw, Take note, 5wt, great streamer rod... 3wt great small creek rod and i mean small, possibly a great time with brookies. The 3wt is like an ultra light in spin casting but for flyfishing. It is a great rod, one that I would LOOVE to get a replacement section for. It came with 2 tip sections, to bad the tip did not break. Not sure if justin is going to do this with the release of the rods (having 2 tips)

Well this overview has turned into more of a review, there both great rods and I actually hope there the same in the new release because I have taken everything from huge carp, to trout, stripers, and pike on the 5wt... enjoy these pics..

Mods feel free to post as a review, Justin feel free to post on your facebook, or whatever

Enjoy a few of these pics I have taken while I have had The XA rod

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/fishhh.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/26534857.jpg/






Posted on: 2011/8/31 22:21

Edited by skibo5 on 2011/8/31 22:37:55
Edited by skibo5 on 2011/8/31 22:41:11
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