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6 or 7 Weight rod

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Looking to exapand my horizons beyond stream trout fishing. In 2012 my goal is to fish the WB Deleware, Erie Steelhead, and do some Bass and Pickeral fishing also. Would a 6 or 7 weight rod cover these fishing conditions ? Woud I need to buy two rods to cover them all ?

Any help from the board is appreciated.


Posted on: 2011/10/20 8:58


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If you want to do Steelhead, get a 7 weight. It'll work well for bass too (I use an 8 weight when I go for largemouth, a 6 weight works for bass too, but you need a 7 for steelie).


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Thanks Sasquatch. Do you think a 7 weight is overkill for the West Branch ?

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Don't know. Never fished it-sorry. I'm a SE PA and NCPA "angler". There's tons of guys on here who fish it though, so I'm sure you'll get an answer quick.

Posted on: 2011/10/20 9:21


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I fish for smallmouth a LOT. I also like to use an 8.5" 4wt a LOT.
Sometimes it doesn't work out the way I'd like. When fishing the Delaware for smallmouth, I use a 5 or 6 wt rod, and do alright. Most of my smallmouth fishing is done on Neshaminy Creek, however, and my biggest smallmouth have all been caught there.
Smallmouth in the 16-17 inch range are about max for me, with
12 inch being much more common. Same for Delaware. The issue
I run into on Neshaminy Creek is being able to turn a smallmouth.
Thre bottom is littered with large rocks, and they love to run for cover. The 4wt doesn't turn fish well, but I manage. This measured 16":
[IMG]http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/PHEAA/June15Smallmouth.jpg[/IMG]
That smallmouth ws landed less than 10 yards above this section:
[IMG]http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/PHEAA/NeshaminyCreek2May2011.jpg[/IMG]
The current flow is tremendous there. The stream narrows from nearly 200 feet wide to less than 30 feet, and it's deep. The trick is keeping them from running downstream. A couple days before Hurricane Irene, I went fishing on the Neshaminy, and hooked into
a HUGE smallmouth. I'd seen these monsters cruising the water above that bottleneck section before, but resigned myself to the notion that they couldn't be caught. WRONG! I was able to get the monster in close enough to know I brought a knife to a gunfight, and he dwarfed the other smallmouth I had caught there previously. As he got clser to the bottlneck, I knew that I was going to loose if he made it into the swift current, so I slammed thebrakes on the reel. He leaped higher than I thogh possible for a fish that large, fell backwards, and spit the little hook. The whole ordeal lasted about 5 minutes, and my heart was pounding. If I had a 6-8wt rod, I might have been able to turn the beast before he reached the bottleneck. Once he reached the bottleneck/swift current, the tiny #12 hook was the next issue, with or without a heavier rod. There was another angler watching, and he said he should have followed the smallmouth downstream
a al' Brad Pitt...LOL!

Conclusion: If you're targeting large smallmouth, go heavier than a 4wt. I would have given anything for an 8wt that day, and even a s6wt would have done the trick. Most of the larger smallmouth I catch dive deep and look for rocks. The trick is having a rod heavy enough to turn them. Casting an 8wt for 2-3 hours sounds a bit ouchy for my shoulder, but I have fished a 7wt for that long.

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I don't care about no steelheads, but I'm gonna throw out the leftfield suggestion: The Cabela's 7'6" 7/8wt CGR is sublime. This may not be a practical suggestion for many people, but its absolutely pleasant to cast and fish with. YMMV.

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9' for 8 wt. if you are going to wade past your ankles IMHO.

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For PA steelies, a 10 ft 7 wt is perfect. Length is a huge advantage. As far as action, how it casts is not of primary concern, casting is easy and not your primary focus for a rod. Length for getting good drifts, soft tip for protecting tippets, stout backbone for leverage in fighting.

You can get away with a 6 or even a 5. Sub optimal, but it'll get the job done in a pinch. Would not go less than 9 ft for sure.

For NY tribs, I have little experience, but my understanding is that a 7 wt would be on the light side of optimal. 8 wt or even a 9 is better.

For bass, I think anywhere in the 6-8 range is fine. But it really depends where you fish. For smaller streams, a 4 or a 5 is fine, just like trout. For the big rivers, things are different.

WB??? No idea, never fished it in my life.....


Posted on: 2011/10/20 12:16


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go for the 7wt.
it will be a better bass rod and be better at throwing big streamers for bass and trout and like said above, perfect for erie.

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Here's Rick's Pics


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That smallmouth ws landed less than 10 yards above this section:
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Thanks for getting those pics up!
If you can't turn a fish in that section, you're done. The stream has a six foot deep channel right where it narrows, and the rocks are about the size of large microwave. Smallmouth love that sort of water, so it's the price you pay. I almost always use 3X tippet there, and almost always replace the entire tipet after each decent smallmouth: it's shredded from the rocks.

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a 10 foot 7 wt I prefer for steelies.

A 7 wt for streamers on the W.B would be ok, but I think a 5 and I know some who prefer a 6 wt. for fishing dries on the D.

Personally If a 6 or 7 wt is your only option I would go with a 6 wt. over a 7 for the D. It's windy in the spring and sometimes I wish I had a 6 wt for cutting through some of that wind.

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Having fished all these situations, definitively 7wt.

Posted on: 2011/10/20 17:52


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He's not just looking for steelhead, though, but bass and other assorted feesh. A 10' 7wt is gonna be alot of rod to use in situations that aren't tribs.

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Quote:

gfen wrote:
He's not just looking for steelhead, though, but bass and other assorted feesh. A 10' 7wt is gonna be alot of rod to use in situations that aren't tribs.


Having fished all these situations, definitively 7wt.

Posted on: 2011/10/20 18:13



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