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Re: 4X or 5X

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pafisherman,

I wish a 4 wt graphite penn rod. I see what your saying but can't exactly translate that to my rod..

Posted on: 2010/10/4 21:06
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Re: 4X or 5X

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tossinflies , u do want a leader that lays streight most of the time for no other reason than acuracy , especially for wild picky trout that are in a rich stream that don't like to move far for a insect , slack leaders are good for fishing across currents though but acuracy for dry fly fishing catches more fish in my opinion

Posted on: 2010/10/4 22:27


Re: 4X or 5X

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tossinflies , u do want a leader that lays streight most of the time for no other reason than acuracy , especially for wild picky trout that are in a rich stream that don't like to move far for a insect , slack leaders are good for fishing across currents though but acuracy for dry fly fishing catches more fish in my opin


I don't think most would agree with that. The use of slack leader presentation in no way affects accuracy. "wild picky trout that are in a rich stream" such as Letort, Falling Springs, etc has so much complex surface currents that slack leader presentation is all but required. It prolongs a drag free drift much, much longer than a "straight" leader.

Posted on: 2010/10/5 11:47


Re: 4X or 5X

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also if I can ask what does "I am serious here, let's keep it clean here" I wasn't trying to upset anyone?


It was not directed at you. I was discussing a "sloppy lay" and some board members may read something into that.

Posted on: 2010/10/5 11:48


Re: 4X or 5X
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lol...when you start out FFing you strive to learn to lay out your line and leader for a perfect cast.....come to find out, that's usually the worst thing to do for both fishing dries or nymphs...

Posted on: 2010/10/5 11:53


Re: 4X or 5X

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slack leaders are way more in accurate than a streight leader , i have seen guys try to pile up the leader , some times the fly lands behind the fly line and sometimes it land above it creating drag on the fly line which pulls the fly , like i said they are good for cross currents but all other situations make it lay streight ! i guess how long your drag free drift is ,depends on where you are standing relative to the fish that is feeding.

Posted on: 2010/10/5 20:46


Re: 4X or 5X

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I only want my leader to lay straight if I am casting dries directly upstream. Otherwise, some kind of slack is necessary.

troutslammer is correct that a straight leader is more accurate, but accuracy doesn't do much for me if I'm getting sub par drifts. A straight leader means that there is a relatively tight line connection to the fly. This is a recipe for drag, unless the drifts are very short.

I do find slack leaders useless for brookie fishing, since they don't really mind drag, and accuracy is critical.

Posted on: 2010/10/5 21:13


Re: 4X or 5X

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It was not directed at you. I was discussing a "sloppy lay" and some board members may read something into that.

Hahaha thanks jdaddy

And, one other thing, Whats a good way to tell when your getting drag on your drift when your nymphing or using midges

Posted on: 2010/10/5 22:01
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Re: 4X or 5X

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jay hit the nail , short up stream drifts , thats why i said depends on where u are standing relative to the fish , if u place your self a little down stream of the feeding fish and cast up and across , a short drag free drift is very very possible with a streight leader and you can be very accurate hitting the feeding lane alot more precise but we all have are own methods and ideas here so whatever works

Posted on: 2010/10/6 21:44



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