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Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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no glass = bogus

Posted on: 2011/1/5 13:24


Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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They're always so down on Scott. It's true that the S4 is super fast, but it's also billed as their super fast rod. Where's the G2 in this shootout?

Posted on: 2011/1/7 14:06


Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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They're always so down on Scott. It's true that the S4 is super fast, but it's also billed as their super fast rod. Where's the G2 in this shootout?


This might explain it . . .

"I guess the boys at Scott are still unhappy with us after we bashed their S3S in our 8-weight shootout, where it ended up in last place. So when we tried to get them to send us one of their new S4 rods to test, they refused to send us a rod! "

Posted on: 2011/1/7 14:41


Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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I cant figure why Loomis wont give an unconditional warranty like most others do,the rods cost as much as any others. It's one reason I hesitate to buy them. Anyways I was surprised at some of the low end rods performing so close to high end sticks.

Posted on: 2011/1/8 20:15
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Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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Anyways I was surprised at some of the low end rods performing so close to high end sticks.


Take a good blank design, roll the blank overseas, have some Asians build it out with cheap components, and presto-chango, you have an inexpensive high performance rod! Dubious quality perhaps, but when it works, it works well.

*OR*

Keep blank production and final construction in the USA, using the same cheap components, and you get...

...a Sage FLi, Flight, Launch, Vantage (whatever the hell they call them now). They have somewhat better qaulity, but they hold back on performance and cosmetics so as to not cut into the sales of their higher end models.

Kev

Posted on: 2011/1/9 7:50


Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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They skipped a really good American made rod ..The Hexagraph..I have fished one for the last couple of years and love it,all my buddies who have tried it like its feel,it also has a good warranty and as I said American made.

Posted on: 2011/1/9 15:58
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Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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I did'nt see any "Diamondbacks" in the test either. I have several that are made in the USA. They have moved all their rod production overseas now. That's a shame they made very good flyrods when they were still in Vermont!

Posted on: 2011/1/9 17:09
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Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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My favorite trout rod is a Diamondback All-American model. Its and 8' 5wt. Wish I woulda bought another one in a 7wt or 8wt back then.

Posted on: 2011/1/9 18:14
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Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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I have 3 All Americans, a 8' 4wt., a 8.5' 5wt. and a 9.5' 8 wt. that I bought for steelheading. I wish I would have bought several more. They were a really nice rod for that price range. I also have 9' 4 wt VSR and a 7.5' 3wt. "Diamondglass". Last but not least a 7.5' 5wt Bamboo. They are all very nice flyrods that I enjoy very much.

Posted on: 2011/1/10 22:09
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Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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The Diamondglass rods are about to return to market. Pre-sale samples have been making the rounds.

Posted on: 2011/1/10 22:16
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Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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Are they made here or overseas? I think all their rods are made overseas now. Am I right? I would really like to be wrong on this one!

Posted on: 2011/1/10 22:22
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Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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Probably are,but I hope not. If they make 'em like they used to I'm getting atleast one or two more. I like mine better than my Scott SAS.

Posted on: 2011/1/11 19:47
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Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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What I found interesting about the article was the short paragraph saying that you dont need the top dollar rod anymore. The mid level and entry levels are using the same processed blanks but you dont get the top guides and other stuff that to me in my opinion isnt neccesary but just an added bonus. It's crazy to see how much a price for a rod is because of the advertisement for it.

Posted on: 2011/1/12 9:19


Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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What I found interesting about the article was the short paragraph saying that you dont need the top dollar rod anymore. The mid level and entry levels are using the same processed blanks but you dont get the top guides and other stuff that to me in my opinion isnt neccesary but just an added bonus. It's crazy to see how much a price for a rod is because of the advertisement for it.


Another factor that is important to many people is that the low-midrange rods are manufactured in asia. The higher end rods with premium components are mostly american made.

If I had the money, that would matter to me. I try to get american made gear when I can afford it.

Posted on: 2011/1/12 10:07


Re: 2011 5-Weight Shoot Out!

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bilg25 wrote:
What I found interesting about the article was the short paragraph saying that you dont need the top dollar rod anymore. The mid level and entry levels are using the same processed blanks but you dont get the top guides and other stuff that to me in my opinion isnt neccesary but just an added bonus. It's crazy to see how much a price for a rod is because of the advertisement for it.


The crazier thing is how much they charge for the "premium" components when installed on a rod. Orvis Hydros v. Helios is $300 difference for RecRecoil guide and upgraded reel seat, maybe $25 difference in component cost.

Posted on: 2011/1/12 10:47



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