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Re: swinging fly

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Turkey, your fly reminds me of a "Steelhead Pat" fly which work very well on the Salmon River. Very nice tie.

Posted on: 2011/7/30 9:35
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Re: swinging fly

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Nice fly turkey-ish
The long black is whiting Spey hackle
I bought a full cape a few years back when is came out...before there were all the issues with the spey hackle product line
I'll pull some for you

Posted on: 2011/7/30 10:47


Re: swinging fly

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Posted on: 2011/7/30 10:52


Re: swinging fly

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Ramcatt wrote:

I bought a full cape a few years back when is came out...before there were all the issues with the spey hackle product line


I just looked at getting a spey neck about 2 weeks ago. I asked the seller what Whiting graded her particular cape as...she said Whiting doesn't grade spey hackle...but I see you got an old neck that was graded.

I would've bought the cape but I started hearing about how a lot of the feathers weren't usable for their intended purpose. If I found a neck for the decent price, I'd jump on it just to try it.

I have a decent pheasant rump and the feathers at the base of the tail are perfect for hackle...nice color, long barbs, not webby...the feathers are just a little too small for most flies tied on irons.

Posted on: 2011/7/30 20:35


Re: swinging fly

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yeah.... there was alot of negative talk about the spey hackle
and then last year there was a harvest error (and from what i'm told) little to no birds were usable
so there is a huge range in pricing 25-150
the fibers are very fine and its not an super easy material to work with
doubling feathers up can produce good results
i like them over single sided black schlappen/coque tails (top right fly in the pic with reel)

since intruders style flies came up... figured i'd knock the rust off those
shorters are on clipped salmon hooks... longer is waddington shank
working on new methods and new materials
grizzly hackle hasn't been in most of my previous flies... also trying some coyote
(junky cell phone pic)

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Posted on: 2011/8/1 11:36


Re: swinging fly

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I like to burn my own from my birds, I get really nice spey from them. have to take a few pics with them...

Posted on: 2011/8/1 18:24
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Re: swinging fly

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here are some flies i have been tying for some reason i have been using jig heads i had laying around and i have been quite fond of rabbit too must be a phase.... that one with the rubber legs is supposed to be a collar the second one came out alot better

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Posted on: 2011/8/1 19:58


Re: swinging fly

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ramcatt how is that hook on the waddington shank is it wire or heavy mono? also i have seen that the waddington has a gap in it do you wrap your thread all the way to or past the gap?

Posted on: 2011/8/1 20:14
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Re: swinging fly

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i rig with doubled-up 14# fireline
wrapped then tripped backed on the shank
coat with zap-a-gap
i go past the gap

some guys won't attach a hook
they use junction tubing instead
run the line through the eye... along the shank.. through the butt then junction tube then the hook

Posted on: 2011/8/1 20:46


Re: swinging fly

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R.Catt, I really like the Intruders. I think that the only reason I've never tied these is the price of the saddle feathers. I know that there are subs but I like the look of the grizzly, a la Ed Ward style. I haven't been tying very long so the proper saddles have been out of my price range since I saw my first Intruder. Even grizzly hen capes are gettin' pricey. I'm assuming that you're spinning the coyote in a loop? They look really good.


Flip, I have the utmost confidence in rabbit flies. The stuff works great. I'm seeing more and more collars made from rubber legs too. Might have to try that.

Posted on: 2011/8/1 22:18


Re: swinging fly

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these are the first intruders in awhile that i've used hackle tips
i was real big on lady amhurst tail fibers... while those aren't cheap... regular ringneck tail work too
i got my hands on some euro-capes/intruder capes (name depends by distributor)... really nice saddle alternative... stiffer and stonger

that batch has no loops anywhere on the fly... everything is tied in reverse

my intruders last year were arctic fox, amhurst fibers, and lots of UV in the mix
5 or 6 loops per fly
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while not true "intruders" (not sure any of my flies are)
these were from spring '11 they fished and/or stuck to rocks well

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Posted on: 2011/8/1 22:53


Re: swinging fly

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ramcatt, all of those flies are SWEET! letera isnt sayin much now is he? lol

Posted on: 2011/8/2 0:50


Re: swinging fly

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Nice flies the Ramcatt, look real good. I haven't tied any intruders yet (old school yet) I do these for NY. waters. last 2 pics I like to swing for the Salmon.

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Posted on: 2011/8/2 5:44
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Re: swinging fly

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wow guys great ties ill definatly be trying to replicate those

Posted on: 2011/8/2 17:46
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Re: swinging fly

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yeah nice work guys...these are awesome!

Posted on: 2011/8/2 18:02



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