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Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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Looking through my box I really don't carry or fish to many wet flies. What general patterns do you folks use. I have caught fish on a lil dorthy (sp) and black gnat with a red head. But what else are there. I also carry the leadwing coachmen but haven't fished it yet.

A pattern for a diving caddis or general egg laying pattern would be greatly appreciated. I have partridge and starling to use for soft hackles and duck quill for married wings.

Thanks for your feedback. On a side note it's great to hear so many beginning tyers getting started this time of the year. I was in your shoes just last year and can tell you it gets easier with time but not cheaper! Keep at it and ask questions! Youtube has a ton of great videos.

Posted on: 2009/12/29 21:50
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Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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Corey,

I use PT and HE soft hackles. The PT is a nymph with two or three turns of partridge. The HE is just a few turns of HE dubbing and three turns of partridge. I prefer the lighter colored feathers.

I also carry soft hackle sowbugs, which are a tiny version of the HE in sowbug colors, as well as pink.

As for wings, I carry leadwings for the grannom hatch. Occasionally I will use one when at a loss for ideas, but they are mainly hatch matchers for me.

I also like to swing cdc caddis patterns, They will sink when swung then pop back up through the film. Fish nail them.

Posted on: 2009/12/29 21:56


Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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One of my best producers is simply a #16 olive bodied soft hackle using a turn or two of a dun colored soft body feather from a starling. Rib with copper wire or mono if you like. I'll fish this throughout the water column and IMO it makes for a better dry fly than traditional BWOs when loaded with flotant.

Be careful with the starling feathers. They're very fragile.

Posted on: 2009/12/29 22:17


Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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jayL wrote:
Corey,

I use PT and HE soft hackles. The PT is a nymph with two or three turns of partridge. The HE is just a few turns of HE dubbing and three turns of partridge. I prefer the lighter colored feathers.




Thanks for the fast reponses guys!

Jay
On the HE you tie a normal nymph and add the soft hackle behind the eye. I'm just not sure I'm reading your description right.

Posted on: 2009/12/29 22:29
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Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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Peacock body, gold ribbing, partridge hackle collar. Add a gold tag if you're feeling saucy.

Simple and effective.


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Also like the pennel, esp black. Floss body, silver flat tinsel ribbing, golden phesant tippet tail, black hackle collar. Green and yellow work well here, too.

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Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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For the PT, I tie a regular nymph with soft hackle behind the eye.

For the HE, I just dub a cigar shape and rib it. No wing case or tails. Soft hackle behind the eye.
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And while I'm at it, the soft hackle sowbug, I still use flies I bought at the bighorn so I dunno what to use for hackle. Still looking for a good cheap feather.
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Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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Jay... the hackle on that sowbug looks like a small feather from a light dun hen neck. Thought I saw some at TCO by Villanova last time I was down there for around $7 a neck.

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Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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Jay... the hackle on that sowbug looks like a small feather from a light dun hen neck. Thought I saw some at TCO by Villanova last time I was down there for around $7 a neck.


Bam,

Sounds about right. I am at bryn mawr hospital weekly for my leg, so maybe I'll stop in next time. Thanks for the heads up.

Posted on: 2009/12/30 9:23


Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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Jay - if you pick up that hen neck, you might want to tie up some of these. Lots of uses for those feathers. if you don't find a neck at TCO, the show will have lots of them.

H.A.

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Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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try tying up some english style north country spider patterns very simple but effective in all situations. I've had some good success with these when out with Jayl, and on yellow breeches and stoney in central pa.

http://www.wetfly.co.uk/

http://learnflytying.co.uk/

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Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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Second Bam's olive wet fly. I go down to an 18 also. For the dun hackle--the feathers from a mallard wing's "shoulder" work for me. Same hackle--different color works well during Hendrickson hatch too,

Had a partridge and orange in my box last spring that hadn't tried in years. One particular evening it was the real deal. I like wet flies and some of the examples in this thread look really good.

Posted on: 2009/12/30 16:04


Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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wet fly leader formula 7 1/2 footer

24 inches .018

18 inches .015

12 inches .013 or .012

21 inches .010 leave a 9 inch tag for dropper

24 inches .008

loop butt, blood knots, when you get to the 21 inches, the dropper will be tied at the tippet end.

good fishing fellows john fave

Posted on: 2009/12/30 18:54


Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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sparkling cadis , h.e soft hackle , p.t soft hackle , olive soft hackle , green partridge soft hackle etc. many good ones. i really like a cdc emerger tied under a nymph. they rise up just enough

Posted on: 2009/12/30 19:30


Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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Here's a few wets I tied up tonight and none of them use more than a few materials. In order; a BWO wet using a biot, dubbing and starling feather... a hare's ear using rabbit, gold rib and partridge... a partridge and orange with silver rib... and a hare's ear streamer using a size 10 long shank hook and a larger feather from the butt of the partridge skin

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Re: Wet flies soft hackle and wings

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Thanks for all the input. I thought I had a starling skin around here somewhere but couldn't find it when I sat down to tie. I sub the light hen hackle for the duck quill and it seemed to work very well.

Hackle length seems to be a personal preference thing with wet flies. I tried to keep mine no longer than the hook itself. Getting the exact size feather isn't easy. Anyone else have a differnet preference? Shorter longer etc.

Posted on: 2009/12/31 1:17
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