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Quill Gordon Ties
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Share your personal ties. I hope to catch this hatch this Spring and would like to tie a variety. Here is my effort at a standard catskill tie. I only had #14 dry hooks. Should these be tied in #12: instead?

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Posted on: 2010/2/10 11:30
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I've never hit a QG hatch. While you're sharing your ties, feel free to share what you know about them, if Jack doesn't mind.

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Well this is inspired from the prospective Quill Gordon Summit Paul G suggested we have to accommodate all of us for whom it has been "most elusive." Share whatever information you wish.

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I believe they emerge (change from nymph to dun) on the stream bottom, so wets would probably be very effective. If the emerging thing is true.

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Here's a wet fly pattern I imitated. Legs too long, clearly.

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So is the downwing but it would make a nice streamer.

Wings on traditional wets should only extend to the bend.

Posted on: 2010/2/10 13:01
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Slender body, is that a light dun?

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Quote:

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Wings on traditional wets should only extend to the bend.


Use your imagination.

Light dun? For the legs? Or silver, it's what I had in a hen.

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I figured I'd better back up my comment with a picture. Elst be judged critical. So I tied and photo'd a dry and a wet QG. Now you can have a go at mine.

Recipe Quill Gordon Dry

Hook: #14 standard dry
Tail: Grey hackle barbs
Body: Hackle stem (quill) from a Brown saddle.
Wing: Wood duck flank feather
Hackle: Ginger

Recipe Quill Gordon wet

Same with no hackle and a down wing. Legs are grey hackle barbs.

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Posted on: 2010/2/10 15:05
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Nice ties. The lighting is off, so I can't determine the materials. Got a recipe?

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Maurice ,
I tie my upright wings a little taller ,1 1/4 to 1 1/2 of body, just a touch longer than yours appear. I'll post mine when I et back out to my desk. I have hit the QG hatch in the Poconos right around opening day and the big brookies can't resist

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Alright I braved the blizzard, here's my dun. My nymph would be my dark soft hackle. Chris

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quill gordon , key to hatch activity is water temp , 50 degrees for a few days in sucession will trigger the hatch , 4 days approx. the spinners will show up at the warmest part of the day (12-2) over the riffles , they will continue to hatch despite the weather once they start hatching , water must be pure and no pollutants , high silt content , factory discharge 9warm water ) etc. if you have good hatches of quill gordons u have awesome water quality . nymphs do emerger subsurface as someone already mentioned , they migrate to the downstream side of rocks late to mid morning , making a nymph pattern in the am pre hatch killer , during a hatch a emerger pattern such as a soft hackle hares ear is killer , nymphs sizes 10,12 standard , surface size 10,12,14 peak emergence is usually between 12:30 - 2:30 but cold drizzly days 2-4 when it is warmest , trout sip the spinners pretty inconspicously so you gota really watch for them , not gonna splash water like a caddis hatch .. if spinners and duns are both on the water , trout usually ignore the spinners (in slower stretches of water ) but in faster water the spinners out # the duns and a spinner seems to work better . i am by no means a expert but i think this may help some and most probably already know this stuff , sorry about the long post fellas just trying to help and i don't think i even spot burned in this one ...lmao 1 other thing if the quills are not hatching put on a san juan worm ....hehehheeee

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Troutslammer thats great info.....!

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The Quill Gordon is my all time favorite, especially on cold, rainy days. I don't have any special ties for fishing it subsurface. In the wet fly department, nothing beats a Gold Ribbed Hares Ear. I fish it up and across to fish that are feeding directly across from me, working a good belly into the drift, and bang 'em most every time as the fly upswings following the line. As for emergers, I fish a tannish olive body with a diamond bead in the thorax and CDC or snoeshoe wings.

For the dry, I don't like using peacock quill. I use a well soaked yellow dyed turkey biot taken from the tail of a turkey that's wrapped over olive thread. You can coat the biot with Hard As Nails if you wish, but I ain't had no problem with biots breaking as long as they've been soaked, starting with hot water, for a half hour of so. I opt not to use wooduck, using dun hackle butts instead.

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Should these be tied in #12: instead?


Yes. I even put them on 10s for fishing pocket water.

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