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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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as jayl said + the tail on the bugger could be a bit thicker, once wet it will look a lot smaller. the nymph thorax tie in should be back near the the abdomen, even over it slightly so there is no gap. hackle is a size to big on dry..

second set of pics..just the tails on the buggers need more..


all flies look good though.

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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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y-w,
funny that you crop them, I've thought of that, but haven't.

Instead....
I bought a camera (3 years ago) that had the best macro setting for what I could afford. I actually put the lens of my camera within an inch of the fly; sometimes closer.

I too take multiple pictures and choose the best one.

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Nice flies Yea-who, you've been practicing! Some of the tweaks mentioned will help with aesthetics, but al your will catch fish. If you want to improve, just examine the actual fly or photo of the fly you are tying, and replicate the proportions that you see. At some point you will begin to look at the actual insects you are imitating, and tie based on that. Later you may look at a natural and try to pick out and imitate certain characteristics of the insects and tie a caricature of that insect to trigger strikes. Experimenting is great fun, and tying, to me anyway, really adds another dimension to FFing.

I'll give you some flies to tie when you come down from the mountains and we fish together this spring.

Posted on: 2010/1/27 9:24


Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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Here's my few tips (not that I'm an expert tyer)

1. Use lead wraps to help build the taper of your nymphs. Not only does it help with the taper, it will help with the nymphs getting down to the fish. Most nymphs are actually more flat than round. Sometimes I'll take some pliers and flatten the lead and then tie my fly.

2. Even though longer tails IMO look nicer on buggers, shorter ones, especially for trout, are better. Trout seem to take on shorter strikes, and my catch rate on my buggers went up when I shortened their tails.

3. When tying in your bugger bodies, tie the material in facing backwards so you don't see the thread wraps and wrap over it towards the front of the fly. This will reduce the thread that you see at the end of your red bugger and make it look a bit nicer.


They look nice and will catch fish, but I like you want to take my tying to the next level. Having some advice on how to make things better is a good start.


Ryan

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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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Yea W-

I don't see a wire rib on the bugger. When you wind the bugger make sure you wind the chenile away from you, as you did. Then wind the hackle (small end tied in first as previously mentioned) towards you, in the opposite direction the chenile was wound. You will have better control in making your hackle/palmer wraps more even. The feather won't find the "grooves" between each chenile wrap. Then wrap the wire ribbing in the opposite direction to the chenile. It adds a rib, and also secures the hackle, making the fly more durable. With practice you will be able to make the wrap without trapping many hackle fibers.

Overall you are doing a good job!

Posted on: 2010/1/28 13:15
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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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Thank you for all the imput and methods i can use for improvement. Keep them coming.

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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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your hackle size looks much better on that one. After making a dry, do this as a test... just place it on the table. If the tail, hook bend, and hackle all touch the surface of the table then it is good. That means it will sit correctly on the surface of the water. You can get away with it being slightly off, but that's a good rule of thumb on the proportions of your dries.

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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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Looks good!

The only thing I see is the wing is too close to the head.

Posted on: 2010/1/28 19:07
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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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Quote:
RYGUY wrote:
If the tail, hook bend, and hackle all touch the surface of the table then it is good.


Awsome way for a dry run... Notice its not that crappie black hackle i have. Grizzly & Brown.

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MKERN WROTE:
The only thing I see is the wing is too close to the head.


I angled the wings forward there not straight up.

Nobody noticed there is no hen feather on that Zug Bug for legs. Its Leg-less.

Posted on: 2010/1/28 19:08


Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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Legless if fine. Matter of fact I don't use peacock swords for tails I just use the tips of the peacock. Some with legs, some without.

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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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Still needs some tweeks, but................

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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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Halo Emerger from the book "Fly Tying With Jack Dennis and Friends".

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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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Bead head PT

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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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That fly, with a lighter colored partridge hackle and dyed pheasant tail is my staple fly during the sulphurs. Nice tie.

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Re: Please Abuse my Tying

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What i did while i was waiting fer da Pizza.

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