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Re: Fly Tying Contests?

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I develop my own patterns, sometimes variations of other's patterns. I consider my creativity to be an art-form.

One man's vocation is another man's art.

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Re: Fly Tying Contests?

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i think contests present an additional challenge to the craft/art fly tying.
You're presented with a pattern, ideally, to fit your skill level, which you have to tie to the best of your ability. You're pushed to make every thread wrap count.
If your tying advanced flies as a beginner, i can see how this would affect the end game.

I've heard of competitions where the contestants judge the flies of all participants by a vote. Ideally, your fly is judged by peers who've tried to tie it.


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Re: Fly Tying Contests?

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I would like to thank you for all your responses.

I think there were more positive responses that a Fly Tying Contest can be fun and the participates could learn from the activity.

My findings will go to a committee and then the Board of Directors for approval.

Thank you again
Jerry Coviello




Posted on: 12/17 17:21
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Re: Fly Tying Contests?

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The fly-tying comps with which I'm familiar require the contestants to tie specific patterns. That means creativity is either severely restricted or, as I see it, eliminated. I've seen contestants become severely nervous/stressed during a contest. I've always questioned how one could consider something enjoyable when emotions run in that direction; yet, I have to accept it as fact when I'm told these same previously stressed folks enjoy these contests.

Fly-tying contests are definitely not for me; however, I would feel it totally unacceptable for someone to attempt to quash them solely because they don't like the concept. It's the same for fly fishing comps. The glaring difference here is that flies are judged mostly subjectively while it's substantive with fly fishing.

I like to sit down at the vise and indulge in my desire to be creative. I know how I want to approach a concept and I'm constantly mulling over in my mind how I can approach things a bit differently. Tweaking is both enjoyable and challenging, for the most part. I suppose that posting a fly pattern on facebook or anywhere else could be considered an act of vanity since people provide feedback to the tyer. That means many of us are vain. Would I think that I may be capable of winning a tying contest? I really don't know - and I have absolutely zero desire to find out.

I can't say that I consider the broad spectrum we see within the realm of fly-tying as art. Some Salmon flies and some wet flies would fall within this category. There are some tyers who tie a variety of imitations that, when complete, lack only the magic of life they appear that realistic. I suppose we could include these as artwork, as well.

I'll end this post with this: one thing that bothers the daylights out of me is when someone hands me a fly and says, "I know it's not as good as yours." They have unknowingly yielded to me in some form of imaginary competition/comparison. That's not what fly-tying is all about...


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Re: Fly Tying Contests?

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I would like to know the rules of these competitions, and what the judges look at. Also who are these judges and what qualifications do you have to have to be a judge.

I would like to enter one just for fun. But it is kind of something hard to judge. I guess you could grade the fly on proportions, and how smooth the dubbing is, how neat the hackle is wrapped, etc. but you would never know how durable the fly is until it is fished. You would have no way of knowing if it will actually catch fish. LOL I have some soft hackles that I tie that would get kicked out of a contest because of how thick and long, I make the soft hackles but will down right destroy trout.

I would really like to enter any of these contest, but I have no clue when or how they are done. I would just like to see how the flies I tie are perceived by others.

I would just hope that the judges have some form of credibility. I know in turkey calling contest, or call making competitions the judges may not be the most qualified.

In both fly tying and call making and calling the only real judges are turkey and fish though...Right?

Posted on: 12/26 16:08
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Re: Fly Tying Contests?

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After taking the time and reaching out to the OP and reading all of the levels of the awards programs. I think it is more about challenging yourself, The varied types of flies in each level will help your become a better tyer in the long run. Right now I don't tie dry flies. I mean the ocassional elk hair caddis or something like that. They are hideous, but they work.

I think you have to have a different look at tying flies to want to give this a go. There is an investment involved to pick up the materials and such that you may not have, but overall it would be about challenging yourself. Tie the fly within the constraints of the awards program, and tie it well.

I think I am going to give the bronze level a shot and go from there. It is a neat idea, and I can see it greatly improving the quality of my flies. Some flies, I may tie differently, but that adversity of tying within constraints I think is what will ultimately make someone a better fly tyer. It is a structured program.

Of course it is not for everyone, but I think it is a neat concept.

Posted on: 12/27 11:12
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