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Re: First Hare's ear

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I dont use wax to dub, never needed it. Ive been tying all kinds of patterns, including sulphurs, trying to fill up my fly boxes, and learn some new patterns.


You will if you plan to tie Usuals. They require touch dubbing for the body.

Posted on: 2010/11/8 15:54
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Re: First Hare's ear

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unless I'm tying a really sparse wet fly where I want thread to show through wax is unnecessary and slows me down. Same with dubbing loops. They're fun, but usually impractical if you value your time.

Posted on: 2010/11/8 16:00


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I think gfen is right on this one. Since you want the thread to show through, i think the wax is going to be necessary. I may try a variation. Just use the rabbit hair for the wing, and dub the body. Use some antron for a shuck.

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At that point, you're tying a rabbit hair comparadun, which is fine. I guess the comparadun's roots are effectively the Usual (or, the Haystack, where the Usual comes from).

You can twist rabbit hair around thread, but its not easy. The longer stuff from the toes'll work better, but a little wax goes a long way. Even just slipping your finger tips over the wax can make a difference.

Try chapstick, although if you're buying rabbit feet, a tube of even the crappy Waspi wax is only like $3 more.

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I almost never use wax, but it's pretty much required for the usual. Snowshoe is a PITA.

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Re: First Hare's ear

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I'll pick some up. doesnt hurt to have some laying around, plus I dont want my flies to smell like cherry chap stick.

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Re: First Hare's ear

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Either that or a toilet seat gasket, which I forgot about 'til now.

I'm told that stuff is super sticky, and you can melt it and mix it with something to make something approaching Overton's Wonder Wax, which is supposed to be the bee's knees.

Maybe I'll undertake said project.

Or, I'll buy some int wo weeks at the show?

...

Toilet seat it is!

Posted on: 2010/11/8 17:03
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Heard even fish can not resist bacon...

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Re: First Hare's ear

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But if it is in slower water and a fish has a good look at it I would think those kind of things matter. Agree or no?


Why are you nymphing slow water?

I agree with Alpa, he shared that with me earlier this year and worked very well on local small limestoners. I like copper bead and wire.

TCO's branded sulpher dubbing is an awesome orangish color and they significantly outfished yellow sulphur patterns this Spring and Summer on the Manny and Tully.

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Re: First Hare's ear

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But if it is in slower water and a fish has a good look at it I would think those kind of things matter. Agree or no?


Why are you nymphing slow water?

I agree with Alpa, he shared that with me earlier this year and worked very well on local small limestoners. I like copper bead and wire.

TCO's branded sulpher dubbing is an awesome orangish color and they significantly outfished yellow sulphur patterns this Spring and Summer on the Manny and Tully.


I was talking about a fast run into a pool, thats the slow water i am talking about. Not talking about a damn lake lol

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I was talking about a fast run into a pool, thats the slow water i am talking about. Not talking about a damn lake lol


You nymph frog water and you know it. FROG WATER!

Posted on: 2010/11/8 22:02


Re: First Hare's ear

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Nymph fishing is for boring people.

Another Fran Betters' pattern I made a pair of last night:
http://hipwader.com/2005/tying-the-parasol-emerger

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Seems just about perfect for those super slow pools.

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So a nymph with a built in indicator.

Cute.

Posted on: 2010/11/9 9:01


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So a nymph with a built in indicator.
Cute.


Technically, I'm fishing on the surface, I've found a loophole.

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What's next Jerry? a variant where you replace the poly yarn with a thingamabobber?

Posted on: 2010/11/9 9:51



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