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Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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So, I ran into a situation the other day where I had about 6 fish in the 18-24inch range rising in front of me for about 4 hours straight. Their backs would make wakes in the water such they were so near the surface. I tried almost every fly in my box that I could think they would be feeding on. After an hour of frustration, I sat and stared at the water. The only insect floating down was a spent apple caddis.

This made sense to me such their rise forms mimicked them feeding on spinners or midges. I of course never ever have tied a spent caddis. I never ran into a situation where I needed them. I did have a pretty large parachute style egg laying grannom that had the chartreuse egg sack and sat flat on the water. I had two missed takes, but realized I needed a spent caddis in my box.

This morning I woke up and searched the web for patterns. I came up with Hans Weilenmann's pattern which is A.K. Bests pattern but the hackle is trimmed flush. I then added a white tip of cdc feather to help float and see.

What patterns do you guys like using?

Hook- size 18 Dai-Riki #730 2xl
Body- Trout Hunter Rene' Harrop Caddis Green
Wing- Beige and cream tipped hen, 2 tips of white cdc, cree collar trimmed flush
Thread- UNI 8/0 olive

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Posted on: 2013/5/27 11:28
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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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That pattern would have killed them. Very nice.

Edit: I had the same issue. The caddis i saw were olive in about a size 16. Spent caddis were on the water but I just pounded them with an elk hair over and over and over. Walk away, drink a beer and smoke a cig, come back and in the first few casts they would take it. Fish that are picky and might sense your standing there need a break from you, when they feel comfortable again is when you can really get them.

On a side note, in a pinch you could always trim the hackle down off and elk hair, maul the wings and make them lay flat and too the side. It would be the same thing.

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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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I of course never ever have tied a spent caddis. I never ran into a situation where I needed them.


Then you don't fish caddis hatches too often.

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What patterns do you guys like using?

Although not an Apple Caddis, this style:
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has served me well from Maine to Montana.


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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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I always carry a pair of old tying scissors on a zinger to modify a full dressed fly and a small seine net to really try to see what they're taking, it's usually not what you think it is. Plus the fishing gods decided you needed to be taken down a notch or two.

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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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Haha, you are correct about those couple fish taking me down a few notches. However, that day was pretty productive with oinkers. It brought me right back up. Law of averages?

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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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x caddis works for me :

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they ride low, i just dress the wing.

if they land on their side, all the better.

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I'm with GC this one's a good choice.
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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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Agree LV, I really like GC's pattern. Gonna tie a few up.

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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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For the Lehigh and Poconos I use a Henryville fished in the film to imitate a cripple or on top for an egg layer. One fly

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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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You know I hate to sound like some old bastard, but sometimes a soft hackle fished in the film will do the trick.

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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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Tried the soft hackle in the film Dave. They were not having it! Lol

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OK fair enough, but I did say "sometimes"!

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Presentation takes a back seat to pattern?

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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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JackM wrote:
Presentation takes a back seat to pattern?


Jack, I think it really depends on how you define "presentation". Is it the drift, or the angle you are fishing from, or the tippet?
Or is it more than that.
I think presentation and pattern go hand in hand.

In attempting to fool a selectively feeding, large (assume old and experienced) trout, the odds are in your favor if you not only use the best presentation, but also select a fly that imitates the size, proportion, stage, position (on, in or below the surface) and silhouette of the natural. These factors are also (in my opinion) an important part of the "presentation".
Some will say that all you need is an Adams in the right size.
I wouldn't say that.
Would you?
Thoughts?

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Re: Favorite Spent Caddis Pattern

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spent caddis with the egg sack 4" behind it..

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