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Coq de leon Spanish flies

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Talked to a couple guys from Spain who had a booth at the Somerset show today. They use CDL for caddis wings in addition to wet flies. Seemed like a good idea (nice and shiny). Anyone else use the stuff? I picked up a bunch and a tiny hair stacker to give it a shot.

Posted on: 2010/11/20 21:17


Re: Coq de leon Spanish flies

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I know a few people that like it for tailing.

Posted on: 2010/11/21 9:22


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Great tailing material, so are spade hackles.

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Wildfish, was this the full cape of CDL at Sommerset? I looked at that too, but it did not seem like the fibers were as stiff as the CDL I've used for tailing. I almost bought some of that myself because the price seemed good, but I had already broken the bank on some a partridge skin and a pair of those nifty sixth finger scissors. The caddis sounds like a really good use for it though. The speckling in the fibers should make for a really nice imitation of caddis wing.

Posted on: 2010/11/21 14:55


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They weren't capes (at least they probably didn't come from the bird's neck). They looked like this: http://www.hareline.com/images/harelinejpegweb/CDL.jpg

I think they were like $8.

Unfortunately I didn't have time to throw money around. Showed up an hour before closing. Needed to grab a cape from the guy I like who only sells $10 necks at shows. Must have missed those 6-finger scissors.

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how much were partridge going for this year ??

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Badger had partridge skins for $15.

Collins' hackle is a fantastic deal, two great dry capes for $10/ea, and a commercial grade for $15. The $10 bargins are as nice as my Whiting silver grade at a fraction of the price, for what I'm doing at least.

I celebrated by tying a handful of size 20 parachutes last night.

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Gfen--I buy Collins' stuff every time I go to these kinds of shows. I haven't used a non-Collins cape since I started tying. I never have trouble with feathers twisting or breaking, and even the bargain capes have a variety of every size I need. Really a great deal.

Posted on: 2010/11/21 19:59


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jayL wrote:
I know a few people that like it for tailing.


It definitely is. I bought some at TCO in State College last year and used it some, not a lot, but I really like it.

Posted on: 2010/11/21 20:06


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its great for tailing , it doesn't matt together when wet and its stiff

Posted on: 2010/11/21 21:00


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I'm really liking the gray fluffy stuff at the base of the feathers (what's it called?). I'm using it at the head of midge emergers and it looks great underwater--lots of movement and little trapped air bubbles. Hanging them off of a parasol.

Posted on: 2010/11/21 22:10


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(what's it called?).


Philo plume or filo plume which ever you like...LOL

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Coq de leon is like spade hackle for tailing? I love making dry fly tails from spade hackle , i use a .22 shell casing and stack a couple pinches of the fibers to get a nice tight looking straight tail for on Catskill style dry flies , could i do that with coq de leon?

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(what's it called?).

Philo plume or filo plume which ever you like...LOL


Unless he means the aftershaft feather.

[img width=300]http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=201848&d=1231809465[/img]

The aftershaft feather is the little marabou like plume that grows off the main feather.

This has a pretty good description about halfway down under "semiplume:" http://www.terryhellekson.com/ringneck_pheasant.htm

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Osprey,
Yes, definitely. They are stiff and have very little webbing. I bought a tiny hair stacker for use with these, but it probably wasn't necessary. They're like extra shiny spade hackle with black flecks (not quite grizzly).

I think the gray fluffy stuff is the filoplume. These feathers have a lot of it. It's like short marabou. If you have some lying around it really does a great job tied in as front legs. I'm working it into caddis larvae as well (just an emerger hook, light tan thread with copper rib, black bead head and a wrap of this fluff behind the bead).

Posted on: 2010/11/22 10:10



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