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Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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i wonder if epoxying some kitty litter to a hook would do minus the blue specks then after it dries tie the head and legs on

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Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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i was gonna say , a size 8 2xl for a grannom caddis .. woooow ! those would almost be the size of jayL's small wooly buggers lmao . the bright green ice dub on a size 16 , with a thin skin like scud back on it. works ok ....

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Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?
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I took some grannom cases home to check the size and below is a photo from Troutnut. The case alone is larger than the shank of a size 12 hook. The uncased larva alone, without the case is a size 16. Adding the dubbing and legs, a size 10 nymph hook is just about right, IMO.

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Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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Ry- I would be interested to see if you have success with this pattern.

Anyone have success with this?

Would not doubt it- just have never used the pattern. I have had success with green BH larva pattern though- hesitant to change off that pattern but maybe I am missing out on even more hookups.

Posted on: 2010/2/9 9:45
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Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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I fished a mammoth caddis hatch on the Neshannock on the first day of trout last year. I tried dries, emergers, pupae, bubble caddis, green weenie... NOTHING!!! I caught most fish that day on a SJW of all things. Don't know if it was because of the fresh stockies, but there were thousands of bugs out that day. I would like to get something a bit more realistic to see if it works this year.

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Quote:

acristickid wrote:
Ry- I would be interested to see if you have success with this pattern.

Anyone have success with this?

Would not doubt it- just have never used the pattern. I have had success with green BH larva pattern though- hesitant to change off that pattern but maybe I am missing out on even more hookups.



Kid,

It seems feast or famine for me fishing with cased caddis paterns. Don't "kid" yourself and believe the trout don't feed on them. I've actually caught trout with bumpy, distended stomachs that were filled with caddis cases. There must be some type of behavior drift with some species given the amount of caddis cases consumed. Also, for freshly stocked trout, they look a lot like feed pellets...lol.

Posted on: 2010/2/9 11:24


Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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where in the water column do the cased caddis usually float... should I weight them or keep them unweighted?

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I use lead wire to taper them and fish them near the bottom.

Posted on: 2010/2/9 11:28


Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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Flip'n'fly,

Spin some dubbin on the hook soak it in super glue and rollin it some coars ground black pepper. Then brush a coat of head cement over that. There ur stoney case.

McCormick cracked black pepper ( the gourmet collection) is the kinda pepper I use.

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Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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I like the looks of this one, gonna try some this year
http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/022607fotw.php


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Posted on: 2010/2/9 12:03


Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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A cased caddis generally will roll and bounce right along the bottom. And the water that is in contact with the bottom moves slower than the water just a few inches above the bottom due to friction and this is important to consider when fishing something right on the bottom. Many times the natural drift of something bouncing along the bottom is a bit erratic and not smooth and more often than not people don’t put enough weight on the fly and the fly stays suspended 3” above the bottom and floats along at a uniform and consistent speed. Although this may look natural to you, to the trout that is feeding on stuff moving erratically along on the stream bottom this is not a natural drift. Simply stand in the water and focus on stuff bouncing along right on the bottom and you will see what I mean.

A really good and simple to tie imitation is Walt’s worm. Nothing more than hare’s ear dubbing wrapped around a 2x or 3x long nymph hook (tie large to small) and ribbed with x-fine bronze wire. It could be a cased caddis, could be a mayfly, could be a scud, could be whatever – it works.

Posted on: 2010/2/9 12:15


Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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ry, fish em along the bottom and especially when the water is up. I think a lot of cases get dislodged during high flows and might trigger the fish to key in on them.

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Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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There must be some type of behavior drift with some species given the amount of caddis cases consumed.


I've fished with a gentleman that swears that they drift from threads at times, and I've watched him murder trout while center pinning a cased caddis imitation.

Posted on: 2010/2/9 13:23


Re: Cased Caddis Pattern?

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I just tied a few up on my lunch break. I used Sandfly's pattern and tweaked it. I'll post a few pics once I get them taken. I did the same as his from the pheasant tail and green dubbing... then I put in some partridge for legs, just on the bottom, and from there to the eye wrapped natural grey ostrich... they look pretty good.

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