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Caddis Larva/Pupa

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If you were going to tie up some caddis larva/pupa flies, what colors would you look at tying? I was thinking of getting some materials to try to tie a woven caddis larva. What color combos would you do?

Posted on: 2008/3/13 18:27


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I tie caddis larva in olive with brown thorax, olive with black thorax, tan and brown, and brown and black.

I do have experimental patterns in yellow, orange, shrimp, and a few other colors that can't come to mind right now.


Olive is by far the one I use the most.

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Walk to your local creek and overturn some rocks. You should see some larva and cases. Break open a case or two and see what color they are. I like olive, green, and tan.

For pupa, look at a hatch chart and see what's hatching and when.

Posted on: 2008/3/13 19:42


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All the ones I mentioned above are I tie as free-living caddis.

Cased caddis I tie in green and cream depending on what case style the fly is (wood pulp or stick).

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Matt,
If you see little black caddis then you need this to match the larva, Killer on kettle when they come off..

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Matt, Sandfly knows his stuff. Little black caddis are very common and very prolific in a lot of PA streams, and Fishing Creek out your way is one. Also the green sedge (Rhyacophila), a fairly large bright green free living caddis is also very big deal on Fishing Creek.

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Which one is the grannom caddis?

Posted on: 2008/3/16 8:58
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Yea-who wrote: "Which one is the grannom caddis?"

Neither, grannoms are cased caddis not free living.

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Grannom Cased:

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I've always been skeptical of the cased caddis patterns. I fish caddis pupae immitating the pupae when it leaves the case to forrage for food but I can't immagine those cases(rocks or chimney)breaking loose and being a viable trout food.

Just sayin.

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I like the zug bug for that. A lot of people don't know that the zug bug can immitate a cased caddis among other things

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Maurice,

I am also scepticle of cases caddis patterns. However, last year I had an increase of hook ups. Mainly on wild fish though. I don't think that stocked fish develop the know of what's inside those sticks/wood pulp/pepples/etc.

It is a fact that fish do eat the cased versions. Like in the "Under Water World of Trout" videos, fish often chew on foliage to extract food particles, this includes cases.
So tie up some algae flies too.

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Peeking Caddis is one of my favorite winter and early spring patterns...Mine look more like this:

But I've had much success and am not skeptical at all...I've taken snails...shell and all...from trout bellies...doesn't surprise me at all they'd eat them.

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I too was skeptical, but a while back I caught a bunch of stocked trout and I kept a few for the pan. The stomachs of the fish were bulging and bumpy on the outside. When I opened them up they were stuffed with caddis cases. I have no idea how these fish were able to capture that many caddis cases. Maybe they mistook them for food pellets!

With that being said, I’ve fished a cased caddis pattern with so-so success. Tom G. and Sandfly have convinced me that maybe I’m missing something, and I’ll give them a try again.

Sandfly, nice pattern. What material do you use for the case?

Posted on: 2008/3/18 7:22


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I can't answer for sandfly, but I often use the real thing glued together with craft bond adhesive spray. I like the long stick caddis and the grannom wood pulp case (the pebble cases always break when detaching from the bottom of rocks, plus they are stuck fast, so how much washing away really happens with them to be available for trout).

For an imatation case, I use turkey tail and for the insect itself, I use caddis green micro chenelle. I place lead on the shank, Burn the end of the chenelle and tie it extended over the eye of the hook. The I add legs (black saddle hackle or partridge). I then wrap to the back and tie in a 1/4" section of turkey tail. After wrapping the turkey forward I coat it in felximent.

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