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Re: Ant patterns

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Where abouts is the Gunpowder?

Posted on: 2011/7/26 15:46


Re: Ant patterns

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i have McMurray ant bodies up the kazoo,since they wont be made any more i dont tie those
Tight Wraps & Tight lines
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Why not?
They have worked for me for over 30 years.

If you are afraid that you will run out of bodies and don't want to tie on them, then I'll take them - but first you'll have to wash them, 'cause they're up your kazoo

Or are you waiting for the salons to start putting them into ladies hairdo's so the price goes up before you sell them?

A foam "post" tied in the center of the shank of a dry fly hook and then wrapped with two turns of hackle is an exact replica of a McMurray ant.
And they still work great!

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Re: Ant patterns

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So what do I need to tie the McMurry Ant? More of what type size of saddle for the hackle. Can I use red foam?

Also where is the best source for foam. I thouight there was a good source frpom a doistributor in PA somewhere.

Posted on: 2011/8/1 9:09


Re: Ant patterns

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Here are some ant patterns I have tied

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Posted on: 2011/8/2 10:21


Re: Ant patterns

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tracker12 wrote:
So what do I need to tie the McMurry Ant? More of what type size of saddle for the hackle. Can I use red foam?
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Any "post" or cylinder of foam works. Match the diameter to the desired ant size
Red is a great color.
Use it as is or color it with a sharpie leaving a contrasting tip.

Simple tie:
1-Start thread in center of the hook shank.
2-Attach foam cylinder with TIGHT wraps to accentuate the ant's "waist".
3-no more than 3 turns of hackle the same sizing as standard dry fly
4-clip cylinder to length fore and aft
5-clip hackle from the underside.
Done
Catch fish


Posted on: 2011/8/2 11:03
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Re: Ant patterns

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Ants lok great. Can I ask how you tie down the foam on the ends on the orange fly. The foam looks flat and dubbubg is underneath. Is that correct.

T ZZZZ

Posted on: 2011/8/2 12:38


Re: Ant patterns

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Where abouts is the Gunpowder?


Northern Baltimore County, below Pretty Boy Resevoir. Not far from southern York County. If you venture there, be aware that there is Didymo in the Gunpowder, so be sure to disinfect your gear.

Posted on: 2011/8/2 17:04


Re: Ant patterns

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So what do I need to tie the McMurry Ant?


Hi Tony - McMurray ants were made with pieces of balsa wood cylinders, which were drilled on one end, glued to a piece of heavy mono, and painted. Kinda looks like a little barbell. The mono was lashed to the hook, and a few turns of hackle wrapped in the middle.

If you really have a burr to tie those things, you can get balsa wood cylinders at a hobby shop, and make your own. Personally, I'd rather just use foam, or better yet, dubbing. Walmart sells foam sheets for 50 cents, and you'll have foam for life for a couple of bucks.

H.A.

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Re: Ant patterns

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I put down a thread base ,tie in foam ,dubbing, pull foam over and tie down the foam all the way to the eye ,dub the front section and pull the foam back over the dubbing ,tie in the legs and whip finish

Posted on: 2011/8/2 21:19


Re: Ant patterns

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Dubbing ants have been killing as of late. If you want something a little more complex check out Galloups ant acid.

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tracker12 wrote:
So what do I need to tie the McMurry Ant?


Hi Tony - McMurray ants were made with pieces of balsa wood cylinders, which were drilled on one end, glued to a piece of heavy mono, and painted. Kinda looks like a little barbell. The mono was lashed to the hook, and a few turns of hackle wrapped in the middle.

If you really have a burr to tie those things, you can get balsa wood cylinders at a hobby shop, and make your own. Personally, I'd rather just use foam, or better yet, dubbing. Walmart sells foam sheets for 50 cents, and you'll have foam for life for a couple of bucks.

H.A.


Good answer from HA (as usual)
McMurry ants were very popular when I started fly fishing in the late 70s-early 80s and I personally did very well with them - they were durable and easy to tie. You don't see 'em much anymore and I'll agree with HA that using foam is much easier.

Posted on: 2011/8/2 21:54


Re: Ant patterns

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+1 for foam. Pretty much for any terrestrial pattern. It gets a realistic sheen when it's wet.

Posted on: 2011/8/2 22:41


Re: Ant patterns

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This is an original McMurray ant - sz 18.

Here's a link to a tutorial, as well.

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Re: Ant patterns

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Thanks for the info. One thing thou that has yet to be answered is the hackle part. So what in the way of hackle material do I need to buy to tie these. The only hackle material I have ever bought was for Wooly Buggers.

Posted on: 2011/8/3 8:48


Re: Ant patterns

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So what do I need to tie the McMurry Ant? More of what type size of saddle for the hackle. Can I use red foam?
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3-no more than 3 turns of hackle the same sizing as standard dry fly
4-clip cylinder to length fore and aft
5-clip hackle from the underside.


Any low quality (or high quality if you must) dry fly hackle. Use the same size as a standard catskill dry (about 1 1/2 the size of the hook gap)

Hope this helps

The original wasn't clipped on the bottom. I always clipped them to keep it in the film instead of on the film

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