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Re: A question about fly dubbing

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sandfly makes an excellent point, the oils that are produced when the animal is livining will disappear in time

Posted on: 2007/4/16 17:41
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Re: A question about fly dubbing

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Hey, Tim, looks like you and me are the only ones who like our drys finger licking good.

I think it was Vince Marinaro who wrote that for drys the dubbing should only "dirty" the thread.
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Dear Coughlin,

Yeah, I'm kind of surprised that nobody but us licks our fingers when we apply dubbing? There are some dubbing materials that can only be dubbed with wet fingers. I learned that trick from an older friend of mine who has long since passed. He never even bothered with dubbing wax or pre-waxed thread and he tied beautiful well proportioned flies. Even his soft hackled wet flies floated better than many other people's dry flies.

Slobber rules!

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Tim Murphy

Posted on: 2007/4/16 23:31


Re: A question about fly dubbing

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I'll we my fingers if i'm using dubbing like hare's mask or muskrat or some other short hairlike dubbing. Synthetics I don't as much because I can pick them up in longer strands, even at the minimal thickness. But as I said before I don't use wax so the wet fingers work well for gripping and placing he finer natural materials.

Posted on: 2007/4/17 9:08


Re: A question about fly dubbing

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I also lightly lick my fingers when dubbing. I kind of just stumbled on this myself and never saw it suggested anywhere else. In fact I mentioned it in a post a while back when someone was looking for advice on getting tighter dubbing, and didn't get any comments on it, so I thought that I was the only weird one. Glad to find out I'm not! I'll also go along with the superfine dubbing for tight bodies. And of course use as little as possible. I don't normally bother with tacky wax.

Bamboozle, that's sounds like a good tip on the counter-clockwise twist. I never heard that before, but it makes sense. Is that looking at the thread from above or from below?

Posted on: 2007/4/17 9:24


Re: A question about fly dubbing

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licking the fingers can give you Rabbit Fever, from the hide..Been there done that, and still lick..The proper way is to use a wet sponge in a shallow dish so you don't get it...Believe its not fun...I should follow my own advise but sometimes i don't feel like getting up to go get the sponge...

Tularemia (also known as rabbit fever or deerfly fever) is an infectious disease in ticks and rabbits that is caused by a bacterium (Francisella tularensis). The disease was first described in Japan in 1837. Its name relates to the description in 1911 of a plague-like illness in ground squirrels in Tulare county, California (hence the name tularemia) and the subsequent work done by Dr. Edward Francis. Tularemia occurs throughout North America and in many parts of Europe and Asia. Francisella tularensis is found worldwide in over a hundred species of wild animals, birds and insects. Some examples of animals, other than rabbits, that carry tularemia are meadow mice, ground hogs (woodchucks), ground squirrels, tree squirrels, beavers, coyotes, muskrats, opossums, sheep, and various game birds.

Posted on: 2007/4/17 9:49
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Re: A question about fly dubbing

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Bamboozle, that's sounds like a good tip on the counter-clockwise twist. I never heard that before, but it makes sense. Is that looking at the thread from above or from below?


WM:

That's looking at the thread/bobbin from the top down.

If you don't already un-twist your thread by spinning it CCW to flatten it after every so many turns; you are missing a simple way make smoother heads and reduce bulk. I do prefer it be twisted when tying down materials though.

I lot of tyers don't realize the thread twists when wrapped.

Posted on: 2007/4/17 10:19


Re: A question about fly dubbing

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I use a technique from AK Best's book. I keep my wax in a small dish on my tying table, when dubbing i just brush my fingers over the wax to get a slight tack. I prefer this to licking my fingers.

lately i have been using more biots for my dries, i think they make a nicer more segmented profile

Posted on: 2007/4/17 11:25
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Re: A question about fly dubbing

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Thanks, Bamboozle. Yeah, I know about the twist, and often give the bobbin a CCW spin to flatten it out. This also helps prevent the thread from getting all kinky and figure-8-y when trying to make a loose loop around materials. I just didn't think about the affect on dubbing, but after reading your post it occurred to me that my dubbing sometimes starts to separate from the thread as I get nearer to the end of wrapping it, and I bet this is the problem.

Sandfly, thanks for the Tularemia info. I had suspected that there were health issues with natural furs, and I normally try to avoid licking my fingers with anything but synthetics. Although, like you, sometimes I get lazy, and your info confirms that I should be more careful.

Posted on: 2007/4/17 13:17
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Re: A question about fly dubbing

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Kreinik silk. Floats forever, easy to dub, colorfast. Just like Fred Reese's silk, best show in town. A little expensive, but if you shop around you can find it cheaper.

http://www.kreinik.com/kshop/product. ... oductid=165&cat=35&page=1

Posted on: 2007/4/17 17:32
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Re: A question about fly dubbing

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Kreinik is EXCELLENT!

I got mine at Yellow Breeches Outfitters a while back but they may still carry it.

Super for really thin bodies and midges.

Posted on: 2007/4/17 18:04


Re: A question about fly dubbing

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Hummm, finger wetting fever. Thanks for the heads-up Sandfly. Better safe than sorry, so a wetting bowl it is with a nod to A.K. Best!

I learned about counter winding flat thread from a Chris Helms video, but I've never heard of Kriinik. Festus, or Bam, what's that?
Coughlin

Posted on: 2007/4/17 20:23


Re: A question about fly dubbing

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Coughlin:

Kreinik is pure silk dubbing material; sold in small bags just like all the other dubbing out there in LOTS of colors. It is VERY fine, finer than Superfine with long fibers and really dubs small bodies great. It also floats great and if you are on a "natural materials only" kick, it's silk!

I got turned on to it from an X-employee at the Yellow Breeches shop and bought a bunch because I'm always on the lookout for easy, convenient, fine dubbing for all the dinky flies I tie.

I forgot all about it until Festus mentioned it. It's great stuff but not easy to find in the local fly shops.

Posted on: 2007/4/17 20:39


Re: A question about fly dubbing

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This dubbing combo is one of the best kept secrets around for tightly dubbed bodies. Just don't put it in your fur blender or you won't like it as much as you use to.

This shop has it on sale. Great people with great service. They are going out of business. Hate to see them go.

http://www.traditionalangler.com/index.htm

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Re: A question about fly dubbing

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Bamboozle & Festus,
Many thanks!
Coughlin

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Re: A question about fly dubbing

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Sure thing Coughlin. Seeings how we're on the subject of dubbing that floats and whatnaught, I'm fixin to open up a real can 'o worms.

Dubbin that absorbs floatant.....will it float better 'n a dubbin that sheds water or not? Same thing with webby feathers that absorb floatant.....better or not?

This outta get good.

And while I'm at it, when tying light colored flies like the Sulphers or Lt Cahills, any of ya paint the hook shank white so's it don't git ta looking darker when it gits wet?

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