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Re: A famous fly that you dont care for?

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im not a fan of traditional streamers the only streamer ive ever had luck with was a clouser and a deep clouser and i dont care for green weenies....... the first time someone told me they were using a green weenie fly i thought they made it up to jag me around i was kinda mad at that guy

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Re: A famous fly that you dont care for?

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Wooley Bugger, I like standard streamers more. give me a ghost, or nine 3, or any tradional streamer/ bucktail. I carry them but don't use that often. Of course right now a brown and orange wooly worm is doing great here now.

Posted on: 2009/10/28 19:16
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Re: A famous fly that you dont care for?

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I came in here to admit I hate the bugger.

I'm surprised I'm not the only one. Whereas I put absolute faith in the Royal Wulff when all else fails.

Posted on: 2009/10/28 22:04
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Another vote for the muddler.
I had to tie them for tying class many years ago, and I don't believe I ever caught a thing on them

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This is an interesting subject when you compare the east vs west responses. There was a simular post on a western site and many of the answers were just the opposit of the ones here.

For instance, before I moved to Montana I would have agreed with the Prince being a never use fly. In Montana it is as commonly used as a pt. Buggers, big ones, are a standard here as are stimulators, trudes and royal wulfs. The rainbows really, realy like royal anythings out here.

As for the muddler, I am a bit surprised there. For many years back east the muddler was a go to fly for me. I tied and fished them both weighted and un-weighted and caught lots of fish on them. An extremely effective method to fish an un-weighted muddler is to trail one behind a heavier point fly under an indicator. The un-weighted muddler flutters along the bottom and big browns really seem to like them.

As for a famous pattern that I use very infrequently: for some very strange reson I rarely use a Clouser Minnow. As a streamer fisherman that is strange. However, I have used them a few times recently and my clients did well on them on the lower Big Horn. They are on my to-tie list now.

One of the shop owners near YNP uses a royal trude and a prince dropper almost exclusively, ie way too much. He does however catch a heck of a lot of fish with this rig.

Posted on: 2009/10/29 0:39


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I'm a big fan of the Royal Wulff. One of my go-to's for wild trout.

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Re: A famous fly that you dont care for?
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Royal Wullf - love the Wulff pattern, but it makes more sense and has seemed more effective to me to use in natural colors.


I feel the same way about the Royal Wulff. However last week Fritz hit a local stream and fished many fishy runs and pools but didn't even see a trout, then He put a Royal Wulff and I a RW parachute on and in 45 minutes we landed 6 trout. It was spooky.

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If you lived near Middletown and visited Clouser's shop, you know what a pleasant and down-to-earth person he is, and how his suggestions are grounded in deep experience. Yet, despite overwhelming evidence of its effectiveness, I simply don't like the Clouser deep minnow and have no idea why not. The lead eyes, however, are great for many of my other warmwater flies.

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YOU HATE THE PRINCE!!! THAT'S MY GO TO NYMPH!!!!
(all kidding aside)

I am a fan of the prince nymph. I like how it looks, I tie it pretty well, and I catch a good amout of fish on it, especially steelhead. I also like the HE as I can tie it in any color combo and it is a very general pattern.

I am also on the side of liking the royal wulff for wilds. They float like a cork all day, and have the color to see, and the fish seem to like them.



Now to answer the real question, which patterns I do not like. Count me for another on the Muddler side. Looks stupid, doesn't sink, and I like buggers and other streamers for those situations that one would fish a muddler.

(don't shoot me Jay...)
I'm not a big fan of the Pheasant Tail. I just don't catch many fish on them, and don't fish them confidently. It looks ok, but just don't like the pattern. I have some and tie one on every once in a while, but not my go-to.


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Woolly Buggers. I carry them, and fish them occasionally, but just don’t care for them. Also, I don’t care for any beetle imitation. I have much more luck with a plain old griffith’s gnat.

As for muddlers, I have great success with muddlers.

First, try adding a cone head to add some weight.

Second, when tying, hold the first clump of deer hair in-place on top of the shank and secure it in place. Then cut a second clump and cut the tips off cutting the length in half. Spin this clump around the shank and see how it looks. You want enough hair flare to shape a head but not so much that it is tightly packed or so little that it is full of holes. I always go smaller clumps so I can add additional hair if needed. The reason I cut the tips on the second clump is I don’t want the entire shank wrapped in deer hair and since I am going to cut the bottom tips off anyway, I might as well do it first plus the shorter clumps spins much more easily.

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I never was fond of the prince nymph and have never had much success with it. I’m not sure if I even have one in my nymph box for trout, although I use them for bluegills a lot. It’s all a matter of what you have confidence in.

I almost always fish multiple flies and you will likely find a HE or a PT nymph on my tippet along with a match-the-hatch type nymph, larva, or pupa. In limestoners I nearly always fish a scud with another fly.

When I first started fishing, I used a muddler and caught fish, but now usually try a wooly bugger first since it can represent a bunch of things to the fish and has an irresistible movement.

I will put my money on the “wrong” fly, presented well, and fished in the right place any time.

Posted on: 2009/10/29 10:24


Re: A famous fly that you dont care for?

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Afishinado has really summed this up well. As long as we are talking about flies that are in the same size range I will take a well presented "any fly" over any poorly presented fly. I see this end result day after day after day. Presentation is far more important than any particular pattern. IMHO this goes for dries, wets, nymphs and streamers.

Posted on: 2009/10/29 12:14
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Can't bring myself to fish scuds and though I almost always have exactly one San Juan worm in my possession, I don't think one has graced my tippet for more than 20 minutes of my entire flyfishing career.

Posted on: 2009/10/29 13:05
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