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The (Other) Catskills

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Looks like I’m moving the family out of the Poconos and up to NY. We’re looking at the northern Catskills / Hudson Valley in the proximity of the town of Catskill. I have some experience with ww in the area, particularly lakes, but my research on trout so far has me nervous.

Roscoe, etc. is 2 hours away, so that’s not gonna cut it for getting in an hour or two here and there throughout the week. Does anyone have any insights into Greene County or Columbia County?

So far, I’m seeing a lot of large,warm put-and-take fisheries( Upper stretches of Catskill Creek, Kaaterskill Creek, parts of Kinderhook Creek). Esopus Creek seems to hold some wild trout about an hour south, and Kinderhook Creek holds trout about the same distance north. Does this sound right?

I’m not really even super picky about wild vs. stocked, but NEPA has spoiled me in terms of being able to find fishable streams 15 minutes from my house year round. Not looking like the case for ny. Any help is appreciated

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I don't know that part of the state very well. I think Scoharie creek is not too far. The battenkill should not be that far either. I think you will be able to find brook trout in most small streams in the area. I think the limiting factor in that area is water temp. If you can find cold water, you will find trout.

You can also look southeast towards the NYC water supply reservoirs. I think there are a few smaller tailwaters that fish pretty well.

Posted on: 2/3 14:11


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You could go to the NY-DEC map here: http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/7749.html

and pick your regions of interest and then look around for wild trout info/easements (NYS has a very good long established trout stream easement program). There's bound to be quite a bit of information available if you search it out. The DEC sites are pretty good...

Posted on: 2/3 16:26


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Taconic State Park has a nice creek,? Also RolfJansen Kill used to hold nice fish and has public water. I don't know how much pressure there is in that area. When I fished it the creeks were great. GG

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Yes I think you will find the fishing to be good. NY is different than PA in that the DEC does not publish class a lists or full lists of wild trout streams. It's a little harder to find info on NY trout streams than in PA.

Posted on: 2/4 1:13


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Thanks to all of you. This is very helpful. I’ll add those streams to my list of places to check out. I’d read previously that the resort at Hunter Mountain offers a guide service on the Schoharie, but I forgot. Hopefully that means it’s somewhat worthwhile.

I’m still getting used to the DEC sites and figuring out that there seems to be much less published info than from PFBC. This has been a surprise for wild streams and for stocking info.

In a way, though, it’s a relief to know that they just don’t publish the wild trout info, as yesterday while house shopping I drove by about 50 nice looking creeks and I was thinking, “Really? There’s nothing about these online!?”

Posted on: 2/4 15:12


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Try the West Branch of the Delaware below Delhi in the vicinity of the hamlet of Delancey. You'll turn up some wild browns as well as some stocked fish around the Hamden Covered Bridge. Pretty farm valley not far from SUNY at Delhi.

Posted on: 2/16 0:51


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Unadilla has trout also
check out black creek too

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I'm pretty sure that if you drive just west into the park..... almost any small flowing water will hold wild brookies. As someone mentioned, most of the water supply lakes have small tailwaters that fish well with a mix of wild and stocked fish.

Esopus "seems" to hold wild trout? It is filthy with wild trout. Mostly a nymphing experience and you could run into creek tubers or a naked guy with a guitar (2012 Catskill Jam story). Tons of rainbows in the 7-11" range that are very user friendly. The creek does hold fewer browns but they are much larger as a general rule (12' - 22") and will take dries. In the winter / early spring, you'll find big bows running up out of the lake to spawn in the creek. When I say big, I'm talking bows between 22" & 28". The problem with the creek is the clay that comes in at 'the portal'. I understand that the conditions were better in 2017 and there's some work being done to try and resolve the issue. Try the long section between Shandaken and Phoenicia

My buddy's friend runs that service at Hunter Mtn and I can try to work him for some additional fishing opportunities in the area if you'd like.

Posted on: 2/19 9:04
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krayfish2 wrote:

Esopus "seems" to hold wild trout? It is filthy with wild trout.


Thanks for all the info. I said "seems" just because I've never been anywhere near the creek, other than maybe drinking at a bar in Kingston... I'm working solely off internet research.

If you happen to talk to your buddy, I'd appreciate any info. But all the details here so far have already done a lot to ease my anxieties and get me excited to explore. Thanks to all.

Posted on: 2/20 10:55






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