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Rattling Run - Schuykill County

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Looking for some feedback on this stream as I am heading past there in a few days and plan to stop. Any feedback appreciated - you can PM me if you don't want to post on the forum. Thanks!

Posted on: 2013/6/11 14:19


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Which Schuylkill Co Rattling Run?

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Based on the PA Game Commission map it is the Class A that begins in Port Clinton.

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Check your PM

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Posted on: 2013/6/11 23:54


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The lower end, I believe, is on private property owned by a Sportsmens Club. Upper reaches can be reached via a side trail off the AT or off the forest road, a half mile to mile hike downhill from the trails. Stream is a couple-three feet wide there, mostly shallow with a few 1 foot deep runs, and some small brookies.

Posted on: 2013/6/12 0:49


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Even when the entire stream was open to fishing, the most accessible, lower end with few natural obstructions for anglers (rhodo, etc) supported the largest brookies in the stream and they were present in good numbers. At the same time the brookies farther up, perhaps a mile to 1.5 miles were smaller in the hemlocks and rhododendron. Another example that contributes to shooting down the ideas that brook trout harvest is a problem on accessible wild trout streams and that cropping is taking place statewide.

Posted on: 2013/6/12 18:50


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IT ends in Port Clinton and begins way up on Blue Mt.

Posted on: 2013/6/12 21:13
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Re: Rattling Run - Schuykill County

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Mike,
Not necessarily doubting you but more information may be needed to prove your point. Which years, what time of the year, and how often were the samples taken to back this conclusion?

One factor could be recruitment from upstream areas if the bigger ones are taken from the lower reaches. This could be especially plausible if there is efficient reproduction in the upper streches. That may not be true on all freestone streams. And it also could mean diminishment of the better fish from the upstream areas as they move to the downstream areas (better habitat?)

Another factor could be transient fish that move up from the Little Schuylkill. If the survey was done in summer many fish could have moved from downstream in the river to the cooler waters of Rattling Run.



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As a visiting angler who "ain't from around there," I thought the access at the lower end of Rattling Run was very poor.

I couldn't see any good place to park, that didn't look like someone's residential lot. And then you had to walk up through a section with a line of houses alongside the stream. There was at least one no trespassing sign, which may have been for the adjacent residential property, not for walking up and fishing, but it was hard to tell.

And Mike, in 2004 you made a post telling anglers to take great care about respecting property, not littering, slamming doors etc, "or it might get posted, AGAIN!!."

It seems to me those kinds of access problems would be very discouraging to anglers, and therefore greatly limit the number fishing it. It was certainly very discouraging to me.

If anything, the access situation at the lower end of Rattling Run supports the opposite thesis, that the access limitations resulted in low angler use, allowing the brookies to grow to adult size, rather than getting heavily cropped off.

Posted on: 2013/6/12 22:38


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It is my understanding that you can't fish the stream unless you are a club member. I have fished it several times in 2010 after joining the club.

Posted on: 2013/6/14 9:23


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You can access the public part fairly easily without being a club member, and without breaking any laws. The posted stretch at the mouth is very short, but it does effectively cut off easy access and forces you into doing a lot of work for what amounts to an average stream.

If, going north, you pass the stream, there is a forest road angling up the hill to the right, which curves around to the north ridge above the stream. Google maps calls it "state game lands dirt road". The road comes to a T at the ridgeline. If you park right there, and dive down over the mountain, you hit the stream right at the upper end of the posted stretch, i.e. the bottom end of the state owned land. You can see the signs when you get down there, just stick to the upstream side, and go up from there.

Not that hard going down, but the walk out does suck, it's a real mountain, with lots of rocks and so forth. Wherever you quit, just go straight uphill and hit the road that runs the ridgeline, and walk that back to the car. Not an easy day, but it is all public and legal that way.

It fishes ok. It's kind of a straight shot, not much in the way of meanders and such, and the stream structure is unimpressive. There are a few plunge pools. It's also thick as heck with rhodo, one of the thickest I've fished. And watch out for rattlesnakes on that hillside (not joking). I never catch huge numbers there. As a basemark, I typically get into double digits, but I'm not sure I've topped 20, which is average at best for me on brookie waters. The stream is small but the fish size has been respectable as brookies go.

Posted on: 2013/6/14 9:35

Edited by pcray1231 on 2013/6/14 9:50:52


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The access problem at Rattin Run is because of 2 issues, first is that landowners are fed up with hikes trashing the area. The second is that the Co-op hatchery that was in-active for years is now active again, and they are a landowner on Rattin Run. I just hope they aren't stocking Rattin Run.

Posted on: 2013/6/14 10:11
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Yeah, on the game lands there, there are some pretty obvious spots where people have camped, and they left a bunch of crap ranging from standard trash to old tents and pans and such. I usually pick up some of the smaller stuff and take it out, but it'd take a day devoted to just that to really clean it up right.

Still, as I said, you can get there without crossing private land. It's state forest. It's just a little harder to do it that way.

Posted on: 2013/6/14 11:59


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Chaz wrote:
The access problem at Rattin Run is because of 2 issues, first is that landowners are fed up with hikes trashing the area. The second is that the Co-op hatchery that was in-active for years is now active again, and they are a landowner on Rattin Run. I just hope they aren't stocking Rattin Run.


I was there about two months ago and was at the old hatchery. There were no hatchery trout in the dam. I don't know where you heard that, but I think someone gave you bad information. I could be wrong if they started doing that after I was there.

Posted on: 2013/6/14 13:13



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