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Re: Penns Creek Access at Coburn
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I think when you open your land to recreational use, you should expect some ignorant users. But that shouldn't take away from all the other courteous users with whom you have no problem. As a landowner generously giving access across or on private property, you have a basic choice: either tolerate and try to control or educate the ignorant while providing access to the courteous, or post it against any encroachment. The choice is that of the landowner, solely.

Posted on: 2013/5/24 18:44
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I love this spot and I love the GD madness. I hope people can be courteous and respectful but your always gonna have a few bad apples.

On a not so completely separate note:

Does anyone know about the rail tunnel being closed? I remember reading something about it earlier in the season. I'll be up there tues/weds and I am bringing the bike along. thanks for the heads up and if your gonna be up that way then shoot me a PM!

Posted on: 2013/5/26 22:35
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Re: Penns Creek Access at Coburn
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The tunnel is closed. When we were at the Jam, the word was out that it was open. I talked to Jonas and he told me someone broke through the barrier to access the tunnel, but it was sealed up the next day.

Posted on: 2013/5/27 6:47


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Lol, those buyers are gonna be real mislead if they think those Pa properties are idyllic cabin sites..gonna be staring at rig lights in the night sky.


The marcellus shale formation does not go that far south. The gas companies maybe interested in the water, but they won't be drilling gas wells near penns anytime soon.

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Lol, those buyers are gonna be real mislead if they think those Pa properties are idyllic cabin sites..gonna be staring at rig lights in the night sky.


The marcellus shale formation does not go that far south. The gas companies maybe interested in the water, but they won't be drilling gas wells near penns anytime soon.


I was talking about all the PA listings on that site, more specifically the Home Waters Club in Columbia on Fishing Creek as the one the site would be interested in(it sold), but my gas comments were towards the Bradford, Sullivan, Lycoming, Tioga, Clinton properties.

Posted on: 2013/5/27 16:17


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Yesterday I heard back from the realtor for the Cabelas listing and learned the property closed around a year ago. So the information I provided by link doesn't mean the property is changing hands. Sorry if I misled.

Posted on: 2013/5/28 8:22


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Over in NJ the old rail and canal right of ways can go either to the landowners or revert back to the state. Up to the early 30's it was more typical for the property to be transferred to the adjacent landowners because it was easier for the state to do that than to maintain the property. Over time the value of fishing access and rail trails became more important and now it is most common for the state to get the land (especially if it was a 99 year lease from the state). However, there doesn't seem to be a standard answer. If it is a state park access is pretty clear, but even some trails on private land change when property owners change or get fed up with troubles. The parts of the Appalachian Trail on private property have changed quite a bit over time, but the changes have been getting fewer as more of the trail is routed to public property or the right of ways on private land are getting better established.

Posted on: 2013/5/29 12:54


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For ownership to "revert back" to the state, the state must have had prior ownership. That was probably not the case here.



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Re: Penns Creek Access at Coburn

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The rail tunnel at POE PADDY is the one that's closed. Where you go over the walking bridge and through the tunnel, to pop out on the other side of the big U and access the C&R water. Can't go through that tunnel.

If you go up into the camp yard to the left, there is a marked trail which goes over. I did it. It's not that much of a butt kicker, not really that high, and didn't add more than 10-15 minutes to our hike. It is steep and rocky, though, and a little tricky to do by flashlight at night on the hike out. Also a little dangerous, as there are spots if you slip, you take a slide, and then a straight down drop with a hard landing in front of the tunnel entrance!

You could also get to that area from below, or by finding a place to park near the mouth of Swift Run and walking down. But with a bike, from below is probably your only option, and that's a LONG drive around.

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Re: Penns Creek Access at Coburn

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So to be clear, the tunnel is not closed at Coburn. Correct?

Posted on: 2013/5/29 14:55


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Coburn tunnel open, poe paddy tunnel closed.

Posted on: 2013/5/29 20:49


Re: Penns Creek Access at Coburn

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Zoom into area of interest and take a look at parcel 405. But what do I know. http://gissites.co.centre.pa.us/CentreGISPublic/index.html

Posted on: 2013/5/29 21:31


Re: Penns Creek Access at Coburn

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what I'm seeing is that the railroad bed is NOT owned by the property owner.

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