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Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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Maybe someone should contact the local newspapers and have an article written. Might generate some buzz and get a lot of attention.

Posted on: 2017/11/21 15:43


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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Thanks again for posting New Sal.



That was bad.

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Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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Maybe someone should contact the local newspapers and have an article written. Might generate some buzz and get a lot of attention.


That may happen, I've let Bill A of the ljra know of the situation. He writes a column in the local paper, its a possibility he could write something about it, Ill make a suggestion.

Posted on: 2017/11/21 15:48


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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" It might be a forlorn hope, but is there any chance this is a deer season thing and may revert to status quo in the Spring? This happens quite a bit, at least in my experience.."
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I thought the exact same thing. The timing would be right. I've seen this a lot in my area.


New enterprise has owned this property damn near forever, and they have never posted it seasonally before, secondly the property would really be terrible for hunting, I'm 1,000% positive new enterprise owns much much better property for hunting. The area that has been posted is nothing but an access road and the river, with a few tree patches, would be hard pressed to even call it "woods". Of course you get wildlife back there occasionally but its not anything to write home about.
Thirdly the "wooded" areas have always been posted, however the access road itself was not posted and open to public for fishing access.. That's no longer the case.

I appreciate the thought though.

Posted on: 2017/11/21 15:53


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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I guess I will be taking my kayak the next time I fish the little J!!

Posted on: 2017/11/21 16:25


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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This is quite a damper. The LJ is getting hit hard by posting.

That being said, I have questions about the legality of this. How can a private company exclude people from township road? Regardless of being closed, Limestone road is still public right of way correct? If so, you could easily just walk down the road until you get to a spot where the stream and road are close, hop in, and start fishing.

Posted on: 2017/11/21 17:24


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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Contact your state rep. No company likes to have govt. regulator types crawling around their operations.

all kinds of reasons but some are due to our own doings. In bucks county there's a concrete company in a popular cove on the Delaware. They had it open for all to enjoy. You could even launch your boat right off the bank. They paid close to 200k each year cleaning the property. When times got tough they stopped paying for the clean up and erected a large fence around it. Can't blame them. That's 200K per year coming out of their pockets.

Posted on: 2017/11/21 19:46


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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they can do it because the township abandoned the road years ago and NE took control and maintained it after the hurricane floods.

The LJRA has cleaned this area for 12 years. In fact, the first clean up yielded 2 long dumpsters of trash from the limestone road area. People were dumping things back there. LJRA clean it up and continues to do so each year. NE does not clean the area. I strongly suspect liability concerns.

Posted on: 2017/11/21 20:32


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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So, does new enterprise also own the gravel lot just above the pemberton bridge. That is where most people park to fish the big hole up and down from the bridge.

And if you can still access at the bridge, you would be able to wade upstream - within the high water mark of course.

Posted on: 2017/11/21 23:16


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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Good question. I also wonder if those signs could be amended for walk in fishing only and still help with liability insurance.

Posted on: 2017/11/22 5:06


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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the lot is owned by them. i would be surprised if they posted that, although I have seen people make truck access to the stream by parking in bad places. But that's rare. They were not happy when people starting driving back across the field so they placed the piles of stone along the road. they have been cooperative in the past, so i am interested to know their motivation.

Posted on: 2017/11/22 7:56


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John96 wrote:
This is quite a damper. The LJ is getting hit hard by posting.

That being said, I have questions about the legality of this. How can a private company exclude people from township road? Regardless of being closed, Limestone road is still public right of way correct? If so, you could easily just walk down the road until you get to a spot where the stream and road are close, hop in, and start fishing.


New Sal did some research about Limestone Road back in the spring. He came up with this. The road was abandoned by the Township and ownership was reverted to the quarry owners.

Posted on: 2017/11/22 8:11


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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That pretty well concludes New Enterprise has the prime ownership and public right of ways are not a factor.

If, as I have seen, hunting is the issue, then perhaps the LJRA can get walk in fishing only access restored and NE can have their liability limited with hunting restricted.

People will be on the water no matter with navigable status, so no liability exists on the water activity.

Walk in exists within the flood plane. Parking and access to the old road for fishing would remain a good public courtesy if NE can be convinced this is a benefit to them.


Posted on: 2017/11/22 8:27


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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So, does new enterprise also own the gravel lot just above the pemberton bridge. That is where most people park to fish the big hole up and down from the bridge.

And if you can still access at the bridge, you would be able to wade upstream - within the high water mark of course.


The gravel area is also posted.
Looks like babe road and wade down, or junkyard and wade up.

The junkyard recently scrapped/wholesaled everything in there lot. In my mind they are probobly doing this to sell the property. IF they do sell the junkyard and someone buys it and posts it, we are in REAL trouble.


Posted on: 2017/11/22 8:39


Re: New Little Juniata Postings.

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Why doesn't someone make a call to New Enterprise and find out what their motivation is, instead of speculating about hunting, liability, company ownership change, etc.?

Posted on: 2017/11/22 8:57



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