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Re: U.S. Forest Service Prohibits Shell Oil From Using Forest Water

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WE do not benefit in any way by the drilling for gas, it is being sent overseas and because the Commonwealth is not going to tax the drilling companies we'll get nothing for the use of the land save the mess they leave behind for us to pay for cleanup.


My understanding is the only LNG terminal used to export gas from the US is in Alaska. Is PA gas being shipped to Alaska then overseas?


The following LNG off-loading and regasification terminals are located in the United States and Gulf of Mexico:[12]

Dominion Cove Point LNG, LP, Lusby, Maryland - (Dominion Resources)[13]
Gulf Gateway Deepwater Port, Gulf of Mexico - (Excelerate Energy LLC)[14]
Northeast Gateway Deepwater Port, Boston Harbor - (Excelerate Energy LLC),[15] licensed by the US Department of Transportation, Maritime Administration (Marad)[16]
Southern LNG, Elba Island, Georgia - (El Paso Energy)[17][18]
Trunkline LNG, Lake Charles, Louisiana - (Trunkline LNG Company, LLC)[19][20]
EcoEléctrica, Punta Guayanilla, Puerto Rico[21][22]
Sabine Pass LNG, rural Cameron Parish, Louisiana - (Cheniere Energy, Inc.)[23][24]
Cameron LNG, rural Cameron Parish, Louisiana - (Sempra Energy)[25][26]
Freeport LNG, Freeport, Texas - (Freeport LNG Development, LP)[27][28]
Everett Marine Terminal, Everett, Massachusetts - (Distrigas of Massachusetts LLC)[29][30]
Northeast Gateway Deepwater Port, offshore from Gloucester, Massachusetts,[31] licensed by the US Department of Transportation, Maritime Administration (Marad)[32]
Neptune LNG, offshore from Gloucester, Massachusetts,[33] licensed by the US Department of Transportation, Maritime Administration (Marad)[32]

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Import terminals, not export. Export facilities require a liquification plant. Much different than an unloading facility for LNG ships.

Posted on: 2011/9/17 20:05


Re: U.S. Forest Service Prohibits Shell Oil From Using Forest Water

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Dear franklin,

The plan is to expand the Dominion Energy terminal in Cove Point MD so that the gas can be exported to Norway, Finland, and Russia. They need a reliable supply of natural gas, WE DON'T.

That's the hope anyway. So much for energy independence, it's just another way for big money to make more big money by trading something they never have to actually own and to Hell with everyone else.

Regards,

Tim Murphy

Posted on: 2011/9/17 20:35
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Re: U.S. Forest Service Prohibits Shell Oil From Using Forest Water

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Dear franklin,

The plan is to expand the Dominion Energy terminal in Cove Point MD so that the gas can be exported to Norway, Finland, and Russia. They need a reliable supply of natural gas, WE DON'T.

That's the hope anyway. So much for energy independence, it's just another way for big money to make more big money by trading something they never have to actually own and to Hell with everyone else.

Regards,

Tim Murphy


Tim;

I have no doubt that at some point we will be exporting a percentage of our natural gas. The amount will be influenced by global energy prices at the time.

The myth that currently all MS gas is being exported is perpetuated by an inaccurate news report in a regional newspaper spread on the WEB. I would be surprised if we export more than 5% to 10% of annual volume once any facilities in the lower 48 are available. (Due to the safety zone required in the area for a LNG liquification facility there are not many locations on the east/west coast they could be placed.)



edit: informative site

http://www.energy.ca.gov/lng/worldwide_united_states.html

Posted on: 2011/9/18 9:16

Edited by franklin on 2011/9/18 9:50:39


Re: U.S. Forest Service Prohibits Shell Oil From Using Forest Water

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Franklin's problem is he can't or doesn't choose to see beyond next week. As Tim said, the plans are to export the gas. They are still drilling wells. Production isn't even anywhere near where it can be. Those who would like the US be energy independent are looking to stop it before it happens.

"Citing abundant access to supplies of natural gas from Pennsylvania's Marcellus shale and elsewhere, Virginia-based Dominion Resources Inc. said on Friday that it filed a request with the Department of Energy to begin exporting liquefied gas from its Cove Point terminal in Maryland."


Read more: Dominion files request to export liquefied natural gas - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitts ... 754855.html#ixzz1YL4slkOk

"...in May, DOE approved Cheniere Energy's export terminal in Louisiana, which even Chenier concedes will result in an 11-percent spike in natural gas prices in the U.S. LNG terminals in Lake Charles, La., Freeport, Texas, and on the Chesapeake Bay are seeking similar approval. "



http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregon ... r_energy_independenc.html

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Re: U.S. Forest Service Prohibits Shell Oil From Using Forest Water

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that's cute...after all who would be more in tune with east coast gas drilling and exports than the state of Ahhhnuld...

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Re: U.S. Forest Service Prohibits Shell Oil From Using Forest Water

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that's cute...after all who would be more in tune with east coast gas drilling and exports than the state of Ahhhnuld...


One of many sources. Maybe CA but more accurate than your initial list of "export" terminals.

Posted on: 2011/9/18 17:19


Re: U.S. Forest Service Prohibits Shell Oil From Using Forest Water

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the estimates of the amount of natural gas in the marcellus have been downgraded from 410 trillion cubic ft to 84. http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/09/20/phil ... cking.protests/index.html Hopefully this will slow the ridiculous pace of development. Funny how practically every other state/country, md, ny,quebec, germany, france, south africa, has approached this situation with more prudence. Nope, not pa, as soon as we heard the word money we said "hey everyone hurry up come rape our forests and streams."

Posted on: 2011/9/20 9:51



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