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The Gas Maps-WOW

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On MarcellusGas.Org you can see the permits and active wells in the entire state. The amount of wells is unbelievable. Find your favorite stream or river, type in county and township, and cross your fingers.

Nuclear power is 1,000 times cleaner than this in every way, it is fool proof compared to this.

Posted on: 2013/3/31 21:56


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Found the ones I already knew about, and then some others around some places I fish I didn't even know existed. Scary.

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Is nuclear energy safe? Look at what happened to Japan during the tsunami. Look at the near scare in Harrisburg. What about Pripyat, Ukraine?

There's two things people hate; change and the way things ARE. I'd rather live with a gas well on my property that supports a natural gas power plant, than have a nuke plant.

No matter what, right now in our industrialized state of human existence; the hydrocarbon is most important reason that continues our growth.

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this is also a good resource to map active wells, leases and violations in Pennsylvania

http://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/drilling/

Posted on: 2013/4/2 9:11


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midgeman wrote:
Is nuclear energy safe? Look at what happened to Japan during the tsunami. Look at the near scare in Harrisburg. What about Pripyat, Ukraine?

There's two things people hate; change and the way things ARE. I'd rather live with a gas well on my property that supports a natural gas power plant, than have a nuke plant.

No matter what, right now in our industrialized state of human existence; the hydrocarbon is most important reason that continues our growth.




Nuclear power is in fact far safer than gas extraction..and cleaner. The Chernobyl event and TMI were both blown far out of proportion. TMI released levels of radiation that are background radiation for most and maybe more like a medical exposure of some sort for a few. The type of designs used in Chernobyl are not even allowed in our country, so what happend there is impossible. Our plants shut themselves off if they lose cooling. And the immediate deaths associated with Chernobyl were from the workers dealing with the aftermath. The effects to the environment or human health were not as dire as people believed. Japan was a primarily a tsunami death toll. That country has some history with this energy and they still pursued it in the 70s when the oil shock came.

A single 1,000MWe reactor can push out enough power for over 550,000 people in a year. That is contained in one small area. Very small relative to the amount of land that needs to be fracked to meet an equivalent amount of gas energy. You would need about 60 billion cubic feet of gas to meet the same energy goals with all its roads, water, dehydration, compressors, pipes, fragmentation, truck trips AND mixing of chemicals with water. Gas is also the game of scarcity.

Interestingly, France gets 80 of their electricity from nuclear power and they banned fracking in their rich fields. Everyone else, in Eastern Europe, does not want to play Russian games for that gas, so they of course are looking at sustainable production like France. Vermont generates 70% of its electricity from nuclear power and they banned fracking, however, their gas reserves are low. Quebec banned fracking, a country with French ties.

Quebec gets almost all of its power from hydroelectric and is now being sued by a natural gas company for 1/4 billion due to violating NAFTA. So a province who supplies their power needs with water, is now being sued to let gas companies use that water to extract a fossil fuel. And, interestingly, Quebec had 1 nuclear reactor that worked for over 20 years and is now being shut down.

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Midge,

Is nuclear safe? Define "safe". Are we talking environmentally, worker safety, civilian safety, etc?

Nothing is completely safe for any of the above. But consider. By not building new nuclear plants, we keep outdated 1st gen plants running well past their designed lifetimes. Further, we choose to have the waste that we have. If we recycled it, all that waste is actually more fuel, and the byproduct of using it would be far smaller amounts of far less dangerous stuff!

And statistically, despite all that, it's still the safest form of energy on just about every front.

I'm very pro-nuclear. We've had a solution to most of the worlds energy problems staring us in the face for a long time. The best argument against it is proliferation concerns. It's hard to demonstrate how great it is for your society, and turn around and tell Iran that they're not allowed to have it.

In the absence of nuclear, gas is about the best alternative.

Posted on: 2013/4/2 16:20


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Deaths per Terawatt Hour for various energy sources.

I ran across something incredibly similar to these stats today, although I cannot remember where. I thought it was in the local paper, but can't find it now. In essence, the article I read today was that if you figured all the damage done to people through air pollution, the few people exposed to radiation from nuke plants pales compared to the air pollution exposure from coal. Gas is definitely cleaner than coal.

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Fukushima was the most avoidable sort of planning error. A basic siting mistake. That disaster was completely unnecessary.

Coal ash would be considered low-level nuclear waste if it were produced by nuclear power plants instead of coal-fired plants. This country produces 130 million tons of it per year.

Posted on: 2013/4/3 12:07






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