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Re: Sucking it Dry

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Each water withdrawl site is SUPPOSED to have a permit tacked up somewhere that states specifically: 1. The maximum gallons water can be sucked out on a daily basis. 2. The the minimum CFS of the creek that sucking out water can be attempted....

Plus, on other streams in Wyoming County there is a addendum that states if the creek is OVER such and such CFS the drillers can suck in excess of (inserts # of gallons here) the daily allotment.

Whatever... it still screwing up our beloved North Central area. Time to move to Lancaster, I guess... I can deal with Amish buggys a lot better than Frac trucks.

Posted on: 2011/3/29 12:31
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Re: Sucking it Dry

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I'm constantly worrying about what I say, and if it'll be taken wrong. haha. I try not say too much abstract stuff. Sometimes people confuse it for something else.

I do have a question. Is anyone here involved with any types of conservation based groups? Any Trout Unlimited members? I've been trying to figure out which groups are worth joining and how hands-on and active they are. I can always do my little part, but it helps to have resources. Maybe I could play a bigger part with a bigger group. Any suggestions?

Posted on: 2011/4/1 23:09


USGS gage funding

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The issue of funding for USGS gages is not in any way related to the natural gas industry. From 1986-2010 Congress appropriated funding to support certain gages used for flood forecasting, including the gage on Tunkhannock Creek. Due to the opposition to "earmarks" in the federal budget this year, we were not able to secure that funding. Fortunately, Pennsylvania DEP was able to dedicate funds to allow continued operation of the gages through the end of September. After that, we'll once again be in the position of seeking a funding source.

Posted on: 2011/4/3 19:10


Re: Sucking it Dry

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wrighter,

I'm a member of TU, as are many other posters. Some have more involvement than others, I'm sorry to say I'm not super involved, I simply give them money and occasionally, when time allows, show up to clean up events and such. I wish I were more involved but I have a lot of time issues in my life right now.

TU is a fine organization. Other organizations to check out are conservancies, which are dedicated to securing public land. Also, watershed associations, which do some land stuff but are primarily watchdogs for waterways, and do a lot in the pollution area of things.

For TU, there are different chapters for each region. There are a number of independent conservancies and watershed organizations as well. Of course, in each case, some are more effective/powerful than others, and the focus is often different(esp. conservancies, some focus on forested mountaintops, others on streams, others on lakes, etc.), and in every region the primary problems can be different (i.e. lack of public land in one area, vs. acid mine drainage in another, vs. streambank erosion and siltation in another). Because of that, its difficult to say which organization does the most for you in your area. Thats something you gotta check out on your own and make a decision. But I do encourage you to get involved in one or more of these organizations.

Posted on: 2011/4/4 8:18


Re: USGS gage funding
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AndrewDehoff-SRBC wrote:
The issue of funding for USGS gages is not in any way related to the natural gas industry. From 1986-2010 Congress appropriated funding to support certain gages used for flood forecasting, including the gage on Tunkhannock Creek. Due to the opposition to "earmarks" in the federal budget this year, we were not able to secure that funding. Fortunately, Pennsylvania DEP was able to dedicate funds to allow continued operation of the gages through the end of September. After that, we'll once again be in the position of seeking a funding source.



FYI, I Googled up Mr. Dehoff. He is the Manager for the Susquehanna River Basin Commission.

Here is a PP presentaion (PDF) authored by Mr. Dehoff with info on the "sucking it dry" subject matter in the Susquehanna River Basin.

http://www.gwpc.org/meetings/forum/20 ... dings/12Dehoff_Andrew.pdf

Very interesting reading on the subject.

Posted on: 2011/4/4 8:23


Re: Sucking it Dry

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wrighter00 wrote:
I'm constantly worrying about what I say, and if it'll be taken wrong. haha. I try not say too much abstract stuff. Sometimes people confuse it for something else.

I do have a question. Is anyone here involved with any types of conservation based groups? Any Trout Unlimited members? I've been trying to figure out which groups are worth joining and how hands-on and active they are. I can always do my little part, but it helps to have resources. Maybe I could play a bigger part with a bigger group. Any suggestions?


I'm a member of TU. Local TU chapters reflect the makeup of their local membership and are as active or inactive as the group chooses. This also changes over time with some chapters waning or becoming more energized. With TU you can always attend a local chapter meeting and decide for yourself if it appeals to you. In some cases there are more than 1 TU chapters within driving range so you could choose.

The local chapter in Bucks County has been very active in local stream restoration and education projects for the half dozen years I have been a member.

Posted on: 2011/4/4 8:25


Re: Sucking it Dry

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wrighter00,

There are several groups involved in monitoring, i.e. checking water quality etc. This includes some TU chapters in the Marcellus area, as well as some watershed groups, and groups like the Pine Creek Waterdogs.

If you live in the Marcellus area, that might be something you want to get involved in.

Posted on: 2011/4/4 8:40



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