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Re: Climate Change in PA

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Jack,

Sounds like a good toast to start off the evening festivities.
" Here's to trout,mayflies and that damn sun for not burning out today...Cheers!

JH

Posted on: 2007/7/26 11:57
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Re: Climate Change in PA

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You can make it as complicated as you want too...for example: global warming actually could contribute to the next ice age happening. As the earths oceans warm, the natural circulation of the oceans such as the Gulf Stream and the one that comes down the west coast (can't remember its name) could change. Melting ice will have a great affect on this circulation by actually lowering the temp of certain bodies of water that are historically warmer. I find it all interesting.

I don't so much believe that global warming is a result of man by itself as much as I have trouble believing that over the number of years that we have existed on this planet, that we didn't manage to have very serious negative impacts...

Posted on: 2007/7/26 19:31


Re: Climate Change in PA

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There are climate records for Philly going as far back as the days of Ben Franklin, the nationas first weather man. I know 2 things the earth is getting warmer and man is contributing to it. As far as how much I'm not sure anyone knows, especially when you take into account the little ice age ended in roughly 1850 and lasted for approximately 500 years. The question is what kind of earth do we want to leave our kids? A cinder? A place where Pennsylvania has no trout streams? If we just slow down while we're driving and car pool we'll save ton of greenhouse gases. As populations expand it is much more important to have a clean planet, then when the earth only had 1 million humans.

Posted on: 2007/7/27 23:01
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Re: Climate Change in PA

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Quote:
" Here's to trout,mayflies and that damn sun for not burning out today...Cheers!


ill drink 2 that! heck ill have 2

Posted on: 2007/7/28 16:12
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Re: Climate Change in PA

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I saw an interesting debate on climate change yesterday on TV. The two men debated both sides of the issue, but the most valuable point I heard was from the man who was arguing that climate change is real. His closing point was that no matter where you stand on the issue, we need to do a better job of conserving energy, reducing our CO2 output, and, especially, reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

Posted on: 2007/7/29 8:08


Re: Climate Change in PA

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By the time we get definitive proof that climate change is occuring, that humans are the cause of it, and that we can do something about it, it will be too late.......

I really think that humans are way to egocentric on a lot of matters........but its comforting to out psyches to have the illusion of self-determination.

Continue to debate if it soothes your soul.....

Posted on: 2007/7/30 23:07


Re: Climate Change in PA

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"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference."

Posted on: 2007/7/31 8:29
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Re: Climate Change in PA

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I like that quote.

Fwiw, people often think I'm a hardline anti global warming guy since I'm a little skeptical of almost everything, in this case, the significance of man's hand in the issue. For the record, I feel that we must do something as soon as possible to fight the problem whether it makes a difference or not. We have too much to lose.

Posted on: 2007/7/31 10:37


Re: Climate Change in PA

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Yes, I agree the stakes are too high. I am willing to give in to the propaganda because it makes sense to be more energy effiecient from both and economic and foriegn policy standpoint. But we could be wrong and could have unforseen even more dire consequences of our efforts. Or we could be sucessful only to have a giant meteor pummel earth and have it all be a moot point. At least we'll have another couple Bono benefit concerts to enjoy because of it. Carpe diem.

Posted on: 2007/7/31 15:41


Re: Climate Change in PA

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im ready to do my part. i will gladly get rid of my car and forget about my bills. ill pack up my tent and all my camping supplies. then ill head north, way north to where the brookies get big. ill live off the land and become a trout bum. i have no problem with this!

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Re: Climate Change in PA

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My car is a fishing machine.

It stays... sorry guys.

LONG LIVE THE NEON!

Other than that, trout bumming it sounds like a plan.

Posted on: 2007/7/31 16:54



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