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Re: what brands of combo outfits are ok?

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Re: what brands of combo outfits are ok?

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Yeah, my point was more along the lines of those Cabelas and BPS combos being standard middle of the road med/fasts that cover a lot of bases but don't necessarily excel in any one area. This is ok and maybe even ideal for a beginner I think. Once you learn a little you can then make a more educated purchase on a rod that's more specifically tailored to your casting preferences and the kind of fishing you'll be doing with the rod. The advantage of those $100 combos is simply you don't have to spend as much to learn what you like and don't like.

The golf analogy is a fair one. I too was an avid golfer before FFing (funny how that works). Same logic applies IMO. I started with a cheapo matched set of Spaldings until I got decent enough to learn what I liked and what suited my game and swing. Now I'm not 15 shots better with my current clubs, but I'm certain on the average round, all other things being equal, I'd shoot lower with my current set than the Spalding starter set...because they're more tailored to my game.

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I just got my neighbor into FF this year. And he bought a temple fork rod - can't remember the model, but it's a cheaper one - along with a prestige reel from cabelas.
The rod is OK. But neither of us care for the reel. He'll be upgrading that rather quickly

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Re: what brands of combo outfits are ok?

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So Orvis is ok, just not worth the extra $ (?)

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Re: what brands of combo outfits are ok?

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So Orvis is ok, just not worth the extra $ (?)


Not necessarily. It very well may be. All fly rods have different casting characteristics and a different "feel" to them. This makes some better for certain applications than others, and some more tailored to certain casting styles than others. It's just tough to know what will work best for you when you're just getting started.

Component/materials wise the Orvis rod/reel is way better than any of the $100 Cabelas/BPS combos...it may not necessarily be that much better than any of the Redington or Bean combos being discussed, but that's a matter of personal preference more than anything. The difference IMO is that the Orvis combo is a $300 risk as to whether you'll end up liking that rod once you progress and learn your rod preferences. Sure you can go with the Orvis and if you end up not liking it, sell it, trade it, etc, but if it were me I'd go get a Cabelas or BPS combo in an 8'0 - 8'6 5wt for about $100 and fish it for a while. You'll learn with it, be able to use it on all kinds of different streams, and surely catch plenty of fish with it. Once you start to learn what you like and don't like as your casting style develops you can then go test a bunch of "nicer" rods and make a more educated purchase for your "flagship rod". You then have that original Cabelas/BPS as a versatile backup rod.

Just how I look at it...one viewpoint to consider among many good ones posted here. In there end there's no right or wrong answer...buy what ya like and will be happy fishing with.

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So Orvis is ok, just not worth the extra $ (?)


Sounds like you already have your mind made up. You really want an Orvis and just wanted confirmation from us. WHO BRAIN WASHED YOU!? JK

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Re: what brands of combo outfits are ok?

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Being new to FF, i just know the Orvis name, seems like a quality store. Maybe i am brainwashed, not sure. Been in several Orvis stores. I just was suprised to see no one mentioned them, as i assumed them to be good. Power of advertising maybe?

In spinning and BC, i have several Bass Pro and Cabela set ups, like them all. I never could justify spending hundreds on a rod for myself... not to discredit those who do. I am just happy with what I'm used to.

I see myself getting maybe a 5wt and maybe a 6wt.

One for streams, one for lakes. Just thinking.

Probably will fish more for bass than trout


Posted on: 2012/7/27 12:04


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A 5wt will probably due you just fine. I fish streams and lakes and have landed nice size fish in both on my 5wt.

If you're going to get two I'd spread your WT farther than one point. You'll be able to land the same fish on a 5wt that you can on a 6wt but if you're going to fish for large carp or strippers you'll want an 8 or 9wt.

My advise would be to get a 5wt and call it a day. There are quality rods out there for $100 if you want to minimize your expendature because it doesn't stop at the rod and real.

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Re: what brands of combo outfits are ok?

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Redington Crosswater combo. The combo is like, $120.00 and the rod itself is worth all of it. If you don't have a reel, the one that comes w/ the combo is okay; it'll hold you over till you can get a better one.

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Agree with SBecker. I own an LLBean Streamlight Ultra 8'6" 6 wt combo set and love it. Serves me well and if your not satisfied LLBean will take it back no questions asked.

Posted on: 2012/7/27 14:58


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So Orvis is ok, just not worth the extra $ (?)


Alot of people use some very fancy mental gymnastics to justify purchases.

There's very little that's not OK. Whatever you pick will be fine until you decide its not.

Don't let others make your decisions for you.


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Whatever you choose, cast before you buy. Even at your price range (< $200), you will have several solid options - pick the one that YOU like the best after the casting them.

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Big +1 for the cabela's Prestige setup. I've beaten the crap out of that rod for the past three years, even used it in saltwater twice and no issues. Only thing is the drag on the reel is just now starting to get a little sketchy, which I consider to be a very minor issue considering I've only had a few fish actually strong enough to test it.

I have the 7.5' 5-wt, works great for small streams and casts well with flies as big as #6 streamers. If you do a lot of nymphing on larger streams (40 ft wide and up) I would probably recommend a longer rod. The setup is good enough for just about everything else though. It can roll cast woolly buggers 30-40 ft if you would ever need to, and it has taken three years of abuse on tight brookie streams with barely a scratch. It is the only fly rod I own, and I don't plan on buying another until it breaks.

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Re: what brands of combo outfits are ok?

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Went to TCO in Reading planning to buy, but they were out of 5wt under $375.

Went to Cabelas and purchase Prestige set up. 9' rod. Guy helping suggested 9' to help with the larger bass flies. He seemed helpful- but I'm new.

Thanks for all your hhoughts.
TOM

Posted on: 2012/7/29 7:06


Re: what brands of combo outfits are ok?

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The truth is all companies make some good stuff and some duds. And how much we like rods is often opinion, a rod I may hate someone else loves.

FWIW, I've casted sticks that aren't much above $100 from Cortland and TFO, and liked them both. In fact, a $100 Cortland GRX is one of my favorites in my arsenal, despite owning rods up to $1000. I've heard good things about Redington's in those price ranges as well, but have no personal experience. I also own an Allen CTS, which retails for around $160. I don't really like it, I won it in a raffle and it's too slow for my tastes, but that's often GOOD for a beginner, and there's nothing wrong with it's quality. In fact, I might be willing to sell it for around your price range, PM me if interested. It is a 5 wt, but I think it's 8.5 feet instead of 9, will have to double check.

My dad has a very cheap Cabela's rod that is just terrible, IMO, but that doesn't mean Cabela's can't have a nice rod, just that model is a broomstick.

Orvis wasn't mentioned because it's getting out of your price range. As would Loomis, Sage, and others in that class. If you had asked for the best rods period, those are the names you'd get a lot of, but expect to pay close to $300 for the rod alone, without a reel or line.

For a reel, unless you plan on pursuing steelhead/striper sized fish, don't concern yourself with the drag, they'll all be fine. And don't concern yourself with the size of the arbor. It's just a line holder. The important thing is the weight, it has to balance the rod well, so that the balance point is on or just forward of the handle. But you should weigh it with fly line on, as that adds some weight. It also should not bind up if you get a little sand or grit in it.

Don't forget fly line in your budget calculations. They ain't cheap. They run from $30 up to $100. Get either a WF or DT floating line to match the weight rating of the rod, that's pretty standard for most purposes. If you're going to fish deep lakes and such then you could look at a sinking line.

Everything else is pretty cheap. Leaders, tippet, flies, etc. Might cost a lot in the long term, but they're consumable items, you replace them a lot, and over time, tend to build up a collection. Like lures and sinkers when spinning.

Posted on: 2012/7/30 11:14



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