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Re: how do you cast weighted flies?

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the "water haul" idea is interesting, I will try that. the 6 foot rod is really only for tiny stream brookies with dry flies, it's great for that, but I do have an 8 ft rod for bigger water and weighted flies thanks

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Re: how do you cast weighted flies?

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Bob,

I have fished hours on end using nothing but water hauls. Ryan's spot on with that.
My first day at the bighorn, it was running 3-4x normal flow. I had about 8 split shot on in a few runs, and a water haul was all that worked.

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Re: how do you cast weighted flies?

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Yep when steelheading and a few ounces of weight on you'll go crazy trying to do anything but a water haul. I need to get up there soon. Maybe I'll do that on the 3rd or 10th instead of the ANF.

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Re: how do you cast weighted flies?

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For me the issue is not weighted flies but moving from dries for natives to weighted line for steelhead. It takes me a good number of presentations to get used to what is a totally different feeling for me.

Weighted flies do not seem to be much of an issue with me, I treat them the same as my dries or unweighted nymphs and work the water no different.

Posted on: 2010/3/13 12:29
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Re: how do you cast weighted flies?

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i hate casting weight myself...

I learned how to single spey cast, and it's helped tremendously.

Learn a simpe single handed snap t, double spey, and spiral snake roll. It will take some practice, but I promise you it will pay off in the long run. here's a link that breaks it down pretty easy for you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZyKjIBzEDI

Posted on: 2010/3/13 12:42
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Re: how do you cast weighted flies?

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I have the opposite problem. All I have ever done is sling split shot and weighted flies around. Dry fly fishing is going to be a new ball game for me and I'm sure I will look like a fool trying.

I would have to say that ryguyfi summed it up the best for throwing weighted flies.

But you most let that line come completely tight before you sling it back up stream. If you let it come tight and then pull on it a little and then let slack in the line again and then try and cast, it will be royal mess. The key is don't let any slack in the line before you cast it.

Posted on: 2010/3/13 13:34


Re: how do you cast weighted flies?

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Lately I've been throwing lead eye flies with a normal casting stroke as described above (backcast, feel the weight pull then forward cast). But I have been doing something different as well.

If I can explain this right:

My intended target is say 30' away I keep my casting stroke when extended to approx. half that distant. On my final forward cast I give it a little extra punch and allow the line to slide through my hand which I have found if done correctly can lay out a cast 2x the length of my false casts.

I am sure there is a technical term for this type of cast and it does take practice and a heavily weighted fly along with no obstactles in the way of your false casts but it does allow me to reach further than a roll cast and when conditions do not allow for a water haul.

Posted on: 2010/3/15 0:29
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Re: how do you cast weighted flies?
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littlelehigh wrote:
Lately I've been throwing lead eye flies with a normal casting stroke as described above (backcast, feel the weight pull then forward cast). But I have been doing something different as well.

If I can explain this right:

My intended target is say 30' away I keep my casting stroke when extended to approx. half that distant. On my final forward cast I give it a little extra punch and allow the line to slide through my hand which I have found if done correctly can lay out a cast 2x the length of my false casts.

I am sure there is a technical term for this type of cast
and it does take practice and a heavily weighted fly along with no obstactles in the way of your false casts but it does allow me to reach further than a roll cast and when conditions do not allow for a water haul.



You're shooting line on the forward cast. The extra weight on the line is acting like a haul I would guess. This is a great way to cast a weighted fly.

In the back yard, try practicing a single and double haul. It's real handy to be able to shoot line on the cast as opposed to making many false casts to work your line out to a distant target.

Posted on: 2010/3/15 6:40


Re: how do you cast weighted flies?
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Regarding littlelehighs "haul," if you think about it, you are really synthesizing the normal fly cast with the traditional spin cast.

The line is back and the fly is at tension with the backward bend of the rod, when the forward stroke begins, you leverage this energy in the fly to propel the line outward-- Just like in spin casting. The difference is that in spincast, you have the weighted bait/lure a mere 6-12 inches from your tip-top, whereas with the fly rod the distance between tip-top and weighted fly is much longer. This longer distance is covered by the more traditional fly casting stroke.

Posted on: 2010/3/15 7:07
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Re: how do you cast weighted flies?
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You're right, the rod is loaded on the forward cast and abrupt stop by the weight of the lure on a spinning rod, and the weight of the line (plus the weighted fly in this case) on the fly rod. A haul on the forward cast accomplishes this too.

Also, that's exactly what the "chuck and duck" cast is all about. A heavy weight (usually a "slinky") is cast like a spinning rod using thin running line in place of regular fly line. BTW, this is now illegal in the FF areas on the Salmon River in Pulaski, NY.

When casting in smaller streams, a single haul on the forward cast almost makes you fly rod launch flies like a spinning rod launches lures into tight spaces. Also you need less room for your backcast. That's why I like a faster (tip flex) rod for this purpose. Hauls need not be only used for distance casting.

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Re: how do you cast weighted flies?
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....that's exactly what the "chuck and duck" cast is all about.


I was going to mention that term. When the bait is used to supply the final load, the trajectory of the forward cast becomes less certain of control, hence the "duck" part. This also underscores why spin-casters shouldn't have 15 feet of line out of the tip-top when they start their cast.

Posted on: 2010/3/15 8:01
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Re: how do you cast weighted flies?

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Wow, when I first saw this question, i was just going to answer with ... Very carefully! (reference to chuck and duck).

Posted on: 2010/3/15 8:19
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