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Re: San Juan worm
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I've never caught a fish on a SJW, "real" green weenie, sucker spawn, and only one on a glo bug.

I have a hard time using them because they look silly, mostly, and they feel like cheating. Regardless, they seem to work very well.

I really don't understand suckerspawn, though.


I like gfens description...but I suppose it won't pass the Jay test......

Posted on: 2010/12/27 23:22
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Re: San Juan worm
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The joy of FFing is in the belief that you are not triggering base survival instincts, but are rather diplomatically persuading the fish to reason that your offering is indeed real food that is something like what it feeds on within the ecosystem in which it lives. Certain of us cannot maintain that illusion when tying certain "flies" at the end of our tippet. I feel that way as to the SJW in nearly all fly fishing situations. This doesn't mean I don't have one in my box, nor that I wouldn't become desperate enough to use it. I have and it worked, but that alone did not elevate its status to me beyond "junk" fly.

Posted on: 2010/12/28 6:42
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I can't resist!!!!! What about terrestrials? Are they all JUNK? They don't even live in water , how can trout be that dumb? PaulG? Beetles? All those trout in Clarks that take a beetle or an ant when there is #OOPS# hatching everywhere are sooooo dumb. At times i have to wonder about some of y'all.

Posted on: 2010/12/28 9:14


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"Junk" flies as some of you refer to them catch fish. Let me rephrase that "Junk" flies catch alot of fish!!

Posted on: 2010/12/28 9:43
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I like gfens description...but I suppose it won't pass the Jay test......


I dunno, the boy's not unreasonable, he's just contrary.

My definition splits the difference, and I'm happy to acknowledge their utility and effectiveness, while at the same time stating why I don't like 'em.

Except suckerspawn, I still vote that's a dumb fly. I think once a year I tie one on, throw it once, look at the sodden mess, clip it off and store it til the next year. Seriously, do those things _actually_ work? Someone tie me an effective one, I'll use it all day Friday, with an indicator. I want to catch a fish on one.

I want to believe!

Posted on: 2010/12/28 10:31
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None of them are junk flys Jay, they are all traditional, natural and effective. I'm convinced. Happy now......


No, because I still don't understand where the "junk fly" line is. I wasn't trying to convince you.

Posted on: 2010/12/28 11:18


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Gary,

Yes, they work very well.

Haven't you seen the suckers spawn on the lehigh valley streams? Trout will be eating those eggs.

I sometimes fish them for trout, especially during the sucker spawn. They are also one of my favorite steelhead flies.

The secret is angora.

Posted on: 2010/12/28 11:22


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Yes, they work very well.
Haven't you seen the suckers spawn on the lehigh valley streams? Trout will be eating those eggs.
I sometimes fish them for trout, especially during the sucker spawn. They are also one of my favorite steelhead flies.
The secret is angora.


Uh oh, being called on my sucker water secret....

Seriously, yeah, I've seen it, and I tink that's usually the time I tie one of those sodden masses on the line and try. Again, it just looks too damned hokey, I can't believe.

I think that's the secret ingredient, too. Belief. Me, I got none. Its gotta trump angora, which I decidedly don't have. I do have sparkle yarn and flash body braid, though, which I've also used, looked at, and put away.

Posted on: 2010/12/28 11:35
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I will tie you some sucker spawns. You can believe in them.

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As an ardent streamer man I don't recall any that would meet Jacks high standards but the fish liked them.

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I will tie you some sucker spawns. You can believe in them.


I believe in you, Jay.

I believe in you.

Posted on: 2010/12/28 11:51
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As an ardent streamer man I don't recall any that would meet Jacks high standards but the fish liked them.


If I established a standard somewhere, find it and kill it.

Posted on: 2010/12/28 12:24
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While SJWs are hardly go-to flies for me - I do fish 'em a fair amount, usually in the springtime and usually tandem with a nymph or sucker spawn.

I find I like to tie my SJWs without the forward extending section as this (at least for me) has resulted in a kinked fly that sometimes twists. I usually tie off the end of the "worm" at the eye of the hook. There's a Hareline Dubbin product I like called "Pearl Core" that makes for a neat and realistic looking SJW.

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Re: San Juan worm

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Fishi...........those flies look like they will get their attention to me , nice. And if they don't get their attention use JayL's method and let it sit , i can't wait to try that. i'm not being critical but try tying the chenille in at the rear half way around the bend of the hook , it creates a bend in the fly that looks realistic. instead of a straight piece of chenille you start out with a bend already tied into it. kind of like an "L" or "J"

Posted on: 2010/12/29 6:02



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