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Outfished by baiters

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Can't figure what I am doing wrong. Can't seem to hook a Trout Used all the top ten flies and woolly buggers, stilll no luck on the Manatawny Creek. I did however practice casting, roll cast and rod loading. When I was in the cold water which I find enjoying when frustrated. Any suggestions?

Posted on: 3/31 20:11


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Did you try any egg patterns? I had good luck with a cream/peach egg over the weekend. Make sure you are ticking bottom as well. Where were you at? I noticed a lot of crawfish around as well too. Keep that in mind as temps warm.

Posted on: 3/31 20:41


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I'm in Stowe, use to line in town. I was ff in Memorial Park behind the baseball fields and by Montco College. I fish in that area a lot. Thank for the tip want to hit the waters together?

Posted on: 3/31 21:00


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head up to Pine forge around where the ironstone comes in or over by Manatawny Creek Winery . I'll be there later on this evening.

Posted on: 4/1 6:01


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Lonefly,
Do you know if your flies were getting deep - down to the bottom of the stream?
Usually you can tell this because your flies get snagged on the bottom. This time of year in cold water trout are usually right on the bottom and you have to get your flies down. Split shot sinkers are helpful. A strike indicator really helps too.

Posted on: 4/1 7:40


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I guess I didnt think to hit the bottom with split shots or understand that trouts are on the bottom now. All a learning curve for me thanks guys!

Posted on: 4/1 9:29


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And for what it's worth, good baitfishermen sometimes outfish good fly fishermen. Sometimes vice versa. It all depends on the situation.

I will say that I think averaged out, I do better with fly gear than I did with bait gear. But cold water and early season shifts that balance towards bait. As does fresh stockers.

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Tis the season for bait and stockies. Give it a week or two and bait will stop working.

But like others mentioned you have to get the fly near the bottom and have little drag. These are hard things for new fly fishers. Sometimes it takes years to master these to where they become second nature.

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Lonefly- PM me what your schedule is like and I'll take you around. I usually stay below rt. 562 but there is plenty of good fishing above. One of the great thing about the Manatawny is that once you get in you can wade for miles and never see a soul. You will be surprised how far the stockers end up from where they were put in. The glo bug and hares ear worked well today. I also saw the first caddis of the year.

Posted on: 4/1 20:03


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Thank you guys! This forum rocks. Sorry, about today Polky. I got caught up in house duty and dozed off by noon.

Posted on: 4/1 21:19


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right now I have to say the best fly is a black wooly bugger with a gold cone. find a nice deep hole and cast it out let it sink of five seconds and strip it in. that my golden ticket.

I am not sure if it evens out. personally I think once the fish are in there a week they switch over to bugs. I go with my buddies all spring and till we stop catching in mid summer and they spin fish. I cant count how many time I have out fished them. I even give them flies to use on their spinning rods.

Posted on: 4/2 1:51


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Woolybuggers are a good fly to start out with early season. Presentation doesnt have to be exact and you get some aggressive strikes that are easy to detect. Olive and black are probably the most popular colors.

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I didn't catch a trout on a fly for a very long time when I started fly fishing. Probably 15 to 20 trips out. After I caught the first one however it was rare I ever went out and didn't catch a fish. If you are just starting out without anyone to really teach you, get a friend to start out with you. You will both do your own research, like asking questions on here then can share all your new knowledge with each other. Main thing is don't get excited, you will catch a fish.

Posted on: 4/2 13:28


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The only reason I started fly fishing is because fly fisherman were completely out fishing me in the same sections of stream. It made me so mad. One of the fly fisherman told me that the trout will ignore my minnow all day long when there's a hatch going on. I had no clue what a hatch was so I started researching. I grabbed my Dad's never used 5 weight and caught a brown on a march brown nymph the next weekend. Game on since!

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Under certain conditions, a real good spin fisherman will bury 5 fly anglers. Once the flows drop a bit and the bugs start stirring, you will have the upper hand. You'll also want to be patient because there is a bit of a learning curve when switching over from spin fishing.

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