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Re: Newbie question

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By the way, as a noob, you should NEVER be afraid to ask questions. Whether its in a shop, on this website, even streamside. Asking questions IS "doing your research".

Posted on: 2012/8/16 10:10


Re: Newbie question

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Bad fly shop imo,or a person who had no idea as to what flies to recommend.
+1 Osprey and others who recommended this site for questions. Just ask, lots of willing members who will give sound advice. GG

Posted on: 2012/8/16 10:43
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Re: Newbie question

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I agree go back in the shop and see what happens, if the same thing happens talk to the owner about it. never know might end up giving you some flies for your bad experience. As a newbie to the sport i had no idea what to flies to get and what not to get. I ended up buying my rod at a different store and walked into the local shop called TCO in state college. Asked them to rig it up for me, without hesitation they said no problem. took them 10 minutes for them to do it all while giving me different locations to go and what flies to use.
Its too bad you got that experience but dont let that take you away from the sport. And always ask people who are fishing for different tips. Ive done it plenty of times and they are always willing to give you different information. ive even gotten a couple flies from the people ive asked questions about!!!

enjoy fishing and get out there as much as possible!!

Posted on: 2012/9/15 21:11


Re: Newbie question

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Yeah, totally uncalled for. Actually, I still get similar treatment at this one shop i go to sometimes. Maybe its cause im young? When I first learned to fly fish, I was in school at psu, so I had two great shops to visit for info. FFP gave me knot demos etc. when I was in there and asking about. Both shops there were a tremendous help to me when I started out. To reassure you a bit, some flyshop employees are jerks, just the way it is. This is a highly involved sport, and some guys become too involved in themselves. Like any other activity, you are going to have your "hot shots". Whatever, dont let it negatively affect you. On the other side of the coin, 3/4 shops I have frequented in my short ff career have been instrumental in my development.

Posted on: 2012/9/16 21:40


Re: Newbie question

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When I first started, and the guy who taught me wasn't around to tie for me, I hit up the small family run Orvis shop that's about 4 miles from my house. Not only did the guy INSIST on helping me, he showed me charts, and pictures of hatches that were currently on, and where to fish. I ended up spending about $25 that day, and he gave me about $40 worth of free stuff, including hooks, tippet, leaders, split shots, and some other stuff I don't quite remember. It is for this reason, I don't shop anywhere else. Not only do I support the little guy when I buy from these guys (Father and Son own the shop), but I know if I have any problems, they will be more than happy to help. Your experience sounds like a similar one I had at Gander Mountain though.

Posted on: 2012/12/23 15:57


Re: Newbie question

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FlyGuy,

First off, welcome to the forum.

Adam & Greg (A&G) are great at helping. They love the sport and want more people involved.

I wish they carried more than Orvis gear.

Their fly tying materials section isn't bad for such a small shop.


Cathy

Posted on: 2012/12/23 16:58


Re: Newbie question

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Thank you Cathy. I couldn't agree with you more about the shop. It's quite small, but their selection is better than some of the big box stores. Dicks doesn't carry anything other than cheap fly combos, a few flies, and tippet really. Gander used to have a nice selection, but they got rid of a lot for some reason. Not to mention, the guys behind the counter are usually engaged in conversation with a co-worker, or friend and not really worried about helping anyone out. As soon as I walk into A&G I'm greeted with a smile, and they never sit behind the counter just staring at me while I shop. They are usually standing next to me helping me select whatever it is I came in for. Since I'm new to fly fishing, they have saved me a ton of money because I would go into buy something that I didn't really need, or something I needed a different color or size of. That's what I like about them. Most business owners would just let you buy the thing you didn't need, and make an additional sale when you came back for the thing you did.

Posted on: 2012/12/23 19:03


Re: Newbie question

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Do not hold a grudge against anyone...Remember the sorenity prayer includes A*.holes, idiots, and rude people.
I'd still give the flyshop another chance - if it happens again - there are other flyshops around.
If you can wait a month or so and you live in central to east PA there are two fly shows coming up in the spring 2013. Somerset NJ and Lancaster PA. They will have hundreds of venders that are more than willing to help you out. Fly prices will vary so shop around.

Posted on: 2012/12/24 7:53
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Re: Newbie question

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There was no excuse for the type of treatment you received. THe only advice I'd give you, if that ever happens again, please don't buy anything at the store, just walk out. In some respects, the biggest favor you can do the clerk is to let him know, subtlety or not so subtlety, that his behavior cost the store a sale. If the guy thinks that kind of behavior is acceptable (i.e.he's making a sale), he's either going to cost himself, or the owner, alot of business over the long run.

You just wonder potentially how many people he's discouraged from taking up the sport of fly fishing. Alot of folk feel that fly fisherman tend to be somewhat snobbish, and it's people like that guy who reinforce the stereotype.

In terms of doing your homework, next time maybe what you learned is to go to a different fly shop.

Posted on: 2012/12/24 22:01
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Re: Newbie question

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Everyone was a noob once...

I would call up the owner and tell them your story. Some times good fly shops pick up bad employees.

If he's a decent guy hell invite you back in, if not youve only lost the cost of a phone call.

Most fly anglers are a friendly bunch, but like in life and with any sport there's a few bad pennies around.

Welcome aboard n the best of luck.

Mark


Posted on: 2012/12/24 22:35
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Re: Newbie question

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At one shop this guy asked me if I needed any help twice , one right after another. I thought he was being rude until he pointed to my "Please Bug Me" hat with a brown trout on it. Then we both had a good laugh. I asked for it.

Posted on: 2012/12/26 18:29
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