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Re: Leaders, whos making them vs just buying tapered?

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PCRAY,

I guess your just that good man! I have had it happen a few times even when it is tied properly so I avoid tying the dreaded nail knot and just use the loop to loop connection. I remember streamer fishing once and I had a pretty heavy leader and I got caught in a tree with the streamer. I pointed my rod at the fly and pulled trying to snap the line but my line did not snap and my nail knot failed. It stripped the cover off of my fly line.


I think I am going to try experimenting with an Albright knot. Can anybody provide an feedback as to how it stacks up against a nail knot?

Posted on: 2012/9/5 13:57
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Re: Leaders, whos making them vs just buying tapered?

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That doesn't seem, at least to me, to speak to the quality of the knot. It's not that I'm making a better knot than you. Your knot didn't fail. Your fly line underneath did. Knot is still perfectly fine tightened around a fly line cover. Right?

My guess is one of two things.

1. Speaks to the quality or condition of the fly line itself. i.e. your fly line cover may be weaker than mine. or

2. Your using smaller diameter butt material, thus rather than tightening around the fly line, you're actually cutting it.

Either way, something can be learned here. I've used various Rio lines as well as Orvis Wonderline with no issues. I cut the loop off first. I generally try to make my butt material about 2/3 the diameter of the fly line, which ranges from 0.018 up to 0.022 or so.

Posted on: 2012/9/5 16:17


Re: Leaders, whos making them vs just buying tapered?

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I've come to realize that the only thing more enjoyable than a good leader thread is a good "which vise is better" thread. The leader and connection method that works for you is the best one...for you.
I have mentioned Joseph Kissane's book "Drag-Free Drift" before, and I highly recommend it to anyone that wants to better understand leaders in all shapes and sizes. He makes a statement at the beginning of the book that had really stuck with me. It was something along the lies of, we spend thousands of dollars on rods, reels, and lines, agonize over the choice of fly down the smallest detail, and then make the most critical connection between those two parts with little thought and as inexpensively as possible.
I'm a hand tied leader fan, and I forced myself to learn to tie bloodknots without a tool so I can modify as needed on the stream. I've tried furled, braided, and extruded leaders, and for various reasons I like hand tied best. But I wouldn't know that if I didn't experiment. That is what I think everyone should do. Try them all and find out what works best for you.

Posted on: 2012/9/5 21:18
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