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Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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It depends where the fish is bleeding at. If its bleeding in the mouth area then the fish is fine and will survive.

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Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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I've heard the gills bleeding is a death sentence for them butalso have never seen anything written to back this up. Common sense when releasing fish that you want to survive goes a long way....use common sense......pictures of fish laying on rocks next to fly rods make me cringe , especially winter ones where the air temp is much lower than the water temp., might as well whack it in the head with a rock.

Posted on: 2013/3/29 5:14


Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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Obviously, it's best to keep the fish out of the water for as little time as possible if you intend to release it. When handled gently, I have no objections to a quick photo. If one doesn't feel he needs photos to document his day on the water that's his choice. Just because someone likes to have a few photos of fish he caught doesn't make him a fish killer. Stream surveys done by biologists subject a fish to just as much handling and time out of the water as an angler who gets a quick pic to remember his day on the stream.

Something I haven't seen touched on much is the fight. The length of the fight in bringing in the fish is possibly the most important factor. It's more than the fish just being tired. A long fight can lead to lactic acid build up in the muscles which will then lower blood pH. This can kill the fish even if it seemingly swims off when released.

P.S. The steelie laying on the rocks, next to a fly rod, in the winter in my profile pic went into a cooler, not the stream.

Posted on: 2013/3/29 9:02


Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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osprey wrote:
"I've heard the gills bleeding is a death sentence for them"


Very true. When fish are bleeding at the gill area especially in the summer when warmer water temps take over the fish might as well be dead. Use barbless hooks!!!

Posted on: 2013/3/29 9:43


Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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I've read studies published on the Internet by fishery biologists that show that gill-hooking has a very high mortality rate- like 90%.

Most of the important stuff about releasing fish in good condition has already been covered: use barbless or debarbed hooks, wet your hands, don't squeeze, keep the fish out of the water for only a few seconds, put the fish carefully back into the water instead of just tossing it in the air.

Turning fish upside down does help to calm them down.

I've never been able to get the hang of using forceps for hook removal. But some sort of tool is a good idea for deep-hooked fish. This year, I'm going to try a lobster fork- those little forks with two short tines.

If you can't unhook a fish after a few seconds, put it back in the water to swim a little bit and try again. If it's too hard to get the hook out, cut the leader off.

One point that osprey brought up: in the winter, be very careful with handling. In subzero temps, their gills can get frostbite quickly, which is a death sentence. Laying them on the snow is a bad idea, for the same reason. It's always best to keep fish in the water to unhook them, but it's an especially good practice when the temperature is below freezing. If you have to take a fish out of the water to unhook it, be quick about it.

As far as photographs: I sort of leave it up to the fish. Some fish are okay with posing for a second or two, some don't like it. The camera-shy ones struggle, and I put them back without delay. I prefer to get pictures of fish in the water anyway, but they often scoot. Oh well. I take fewer fish pictures than I used to. If it's too much like work, I don't bother.

Posted on: 2013/3/29 13:25


Re: How to catch and release a fish properly
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I find if fish will not pose for a photo, a light slap on the head calms them down. Anyhow, they are fish and if 1/10th of the trout I hook in the gills survive, I will take my chances by releasing them all.

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Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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Also, don't just toss them back into the water. Place them in slower current and let them swim off on their own.

Posted on: 2013/4/1 6:21


Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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Cold air temps do not adversely impact trout as long as you hanlde them properly. Slow me the science that says it does.

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Re: How to catch and release a fish properly
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I have never seen a trout's gills freeze now that I give it some thought.

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Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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The best way is a LDR(Long Distance Release). I have been known to use that technique from time to time.

Posted on: 2013/4/2 12:00
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Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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Bottom line is don't fight a trout too long. It should instantly swim away; at least with a pinch on the tail.

I will say the other stuff has been covered: wet hands, minimal time out of water, no snow or sharp ricks (where a fish can bang itself up), debarbed hooks.

However, I do think debarbing your hooks save the fisherman more time. I know once I net a fishthe trailing flies always get stuck in my net. Without buying a rubber net, debarbing speeds up the hook removal fromt eh net and other articles of clothing.

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Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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ROVERT wrote:

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Stream surveys done by biologists subject a fish to just as much handling and time out of the water as an angler who gets a quick pic to remember his day on the stream.


That handling is done after a fight when the fish is at some stage of stress, sometimes not much, sometimes a great deal as you yourself appropriately note.

But an electroshock disables the fish so that stress from being fought is not present or at least greatly reduced. They also use clove oil to anesthetize. Not an apples to apples comparison.

However, the survey handling supports the notion that slime issues from handling may not be as much of an issue as is often suggested.

How anyone gets a fish to stay still on the bank next to their rod for a photograph is a mystery to me. When I started taking a camera on trips a few years ago, I tried it and every fish flipped and flopped like mad. I just gave up trying after a few attempts.

Posted on: 2013/4/2 15:08


Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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One thing i did not see was get a good net. I have a mesh net that will soon be switched to a more fish friendly net. I think the mesh net can take a way a lot of their slime, plus it can be a hassle if your hooks get snagged.

I have caught a ton of trout in the winter and kicked water onto a rock or ice and took their picture, caught the same fish a few days later and never had any issues. I am not a huge believer this process. i am sure the fish would rather have me take its picture and let him go than keep him to put him on the wall.

That being said i did kill one trout last year by playing it too long and trying to get a picture. I felt terrible after this. You can tell how played out a fish is when you bring it in. If it is very tired or stressed I wont even attempt a picture.

It is a bummer to let the a fish go in a DHALO area that is sure to die, but nothing on the fish will go to waste. There are tons of creatures both in the stream and out that will benifit from this trouts deatch.

Barbed hooks are a must IMO. I personally believe you get far better pentration with a barbless hook. You may loose a small amount of fish but the benifits far outweigh the negatives on this topic.

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Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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That handling is done after a fight when the fish is at some stage of stress, sometimes not much, sometimes a great deal as you yourself appropriately note. But an electroshock disables the fish so that stress from being fought is not present or at least greatly reduced. They also use clove oil to anesthetize. Not an apples to apples comparison. However, the survey handling supports the notion that slime issues from handling may not be as much of an issue as is often suggested. How anyone gets a fish to stay still on the bank next to their rod for a photograph is a mystery to me. When I started taking a camera on trips a few years ago, I tried it and every fish flipped and flopped like mad. I just gave up trying after a few attempts.


Some agencies use clove oil, some do not. The handling aspect of harming fish is not related to the stresses of being caught. Handling that damages their protective membranes (knotted nets, rocks, dry hands, etc.) threatens their ability to fight off future infection, not recover from stress.

Negative effects of being out of the water could be exasperated by increased stress levels. A few seconds for a photo is not going to be the difference between life and death for the fish, though. My point was that gentle handling and limited time out of the water is not going to significantly negatively affect the fish's chance of survival. Those saying that a fisherman should never take a fish out of the water, especially for a photo, are overestimating the effects that these actions can have if done carefully. It may not be an apples to apples comparison, but I've never seen an internet comparison that was.

As far as getting the fish to stay still, you just need to play them out a bit more. Wear 'em down enough and they'll stay still for you. ;)

Posted on: 2013/4/2 17:27


Re: How to catch and release a fish properly

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Guy, seems some of you can't read, SEE POST # 15, I talked about fighting the fish and using a net.

Posted on: 2013/4/3 21:21
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