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Re: Fall flies

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Bill

I caught a couple with those small crowe beetles you gave me, at Big Springs yesterday.

PaulG


Glad to hear they caught a few for you.
In low clear streams, smaller sizes seem to work better.
I tie them down to #20

Posted on: 2011/10/13 8:25


Re: Fall flies

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Can one still use a coffee bean fly on PA streams?


Posted on: 2011/10/13 23:36


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Yeah, but I've never been able to figure out how the legality works in FFO or ALO waters.

Posted on: 2011/10/13 23:54


Re: Fall flies

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Yeah, but I've never been able to figure out how the legality works in FFO or ALO waters.


Yeah, that's why i'm asking. Not that i'm going to fish this fly anytime soon. But i was told it was a great fly on the L.L. back in the day. But you can no longer use it today?


Posted on: 2011/10/14 0:04


Re: Fall flies

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There is no reason why you wouldn't be able to use it on open water/ATWs, or anywhere that allows bait.

I can see arguments against it on FFO/ALO. That includes sections of the LL, though I know of the guy that used to use it with success in the kiddie pool.

Posted on: 2011/10/14 0:08


Re: Fall flies

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Yup, that's exactly the spot this guy was telling me where it produced back in the day. Fishing by the rock wall /gazebo. In years past the Fly guys would pick up gravel, toss it in, then cast the fly and the trout would take it. Don't know how true that is. But that what i was told this week. It just makes me laugh that people would do that kind of thing to catch stocked trout.

Posted on: 2011/10/14 0:24


Re: Fall flies

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why is the coffee bean fly frowned upon so much?? No thread involved?? Would it make people feel better if the bean was tied onto the hook instead of glued?????

I have witnessed the gravel trick. I have also witnessed people purchasing the trout pellets and soaking them and smearing the paste all over there flies. Sad to have to resort to that considering how easy those fish are to catch.....fish in a barrel....

Posted on: 2011/10/14 19:29


Re: Fall flies

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Glad to hear they caught a few for you. In low clear streams, smaller sizes seem to work better. I tie them down to #20


#20 crowes are killer, nice to see someone else who goes micro on the crowe!

Posted on: 2011/10/14 19:34


Re: Fall flies

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Glad to hear they caught a few for you. In low clear streams, smaller sizes seem to work better. I tie them down to #20


#20 crowes are killer, nice to see someone else who goes micro on the crowe!


I remember reading an article in MAFF years ago, by Mike OBrien I believe
He talked about fishing to small bugs that he called willow beetles at fishermans paradise. They were a size 20, and I guess they lived in the numerous willow trees along the streams there.
So, I tied some up crowe style.
And they have caught quite a few fish for me, that have refused everything else

Posted on: 2011/10/15 8:28


Re: Fall flies

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Fishing the willow beetle is equivalent to fishing a carpenter ant when swamp maples and sycamores line the banks. Hatch matching terrestrials can get you some really nice selective resident trout.

Have you ever given a small jassid a shot?? They are highly effective as well.

Posted on: 2011/10/15 22:00


Re: Fall flies

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Could someone post up some pics of these willow beetles and crowes? I tried google, but it did not yield fruitful.

Posted on: 2011/10/15 22:16
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Re: Fall flies

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Your Google is broken.

Try this.

I see people using dubbing on the underbody, but I've always just used the lashed down deer hair for that.....

Posted on: 2011/10/15 22:25
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Re: Fall flies

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I originally tied my crowe beetles with just the black deer hair - as I was shown in my fly tying class.
Then I ran into a fellow astream who tied his with peacock herl underbody - as shown in HA's link.
I liked the look of that better, and started tying mine that way too.

Never tried a jassid.

Posted on: 2011/10/15 23:08


Re: Fall flies

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Try a jassid, you will be quite happy with it, I'm sure.

Posted on: 2011/10/17 5:32


Re: Fall flies

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I tie my Crowe beetles with black poly instead of deer because the poly seems to allow the fly to sit lower in film. Seems to work pretty well.

Posted on: 2011/10/18 9:58
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