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Droppers

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Since my skills have been improving, not much but improving none the less, i've started to try fishing multiple flies. I've read of many different ways to tie the droppers (inline clinch, dropper loops, etc.) I've been fishing a dry dropper where you tie in a small piece of tippet then take another piece of tippet and double surgeon the two together, trim the odd tag, use the tag you left for your dry, and use the bottom length for the nymph. Just wondering what everyone else uses for multiple fly applications.

Posted on: 2010/3/12 12:46
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Re: Droppers

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If a dry dropper, I just tie the dropper off either the eye or the bend of the hook. For the most part, when I fish like this I'm fishing the nymph and just using the dry as an indicator.

When using multiple nymphs, I just tie in the last tippet section with a blood knot, and leave a long tag end. The dropper goes on the tag end and the point fly goes at the end of the tippet. Even with only one nymph, I sometimes do this and use the long tag end for the weight, easier to change for non-removable shot.

Posted on: 2010/3/12 12:55


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Usually with a dry/dropper, I tie to the bend.

Nymphs I tie to the eye or to the bend (50/50).

A true Czech nymphing rig is nice, but is pretty complicated, until you learn it.

I have also messed around with what I call "false loops." Basicall you create a knot in the leader, but if you pulled the tag end the leader would straighten with no know. However, if you tie in a tippet section at this "knot" the knot is kept from slipping out by the tippet. If you don't want that setup anymore, just cut the tippet and pull the leader straight.

But, to the bend is the easiest, and quicjest for me; probably because that's what I've done the most.

Posted on: 2010/3/12 12:59
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interesting concept Mkern... so you're basically tying a slip knot in your leader and then tying droppers off of those?

My problem with all those droppers is they tangle on me. I tried the whole extra dropper line to add shot for steelhead and it was just a mess.

Posted on: 2010/3/12 15:16
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If I'm fishing nymphs dead drift, I usually just tie a foot or two of additional monofilament to the eye of the lead fly that is already tied on. Tie the "trail" fly to this new piece of mono. Works for me. I also use this method most of the time for dropper systems in which the lead fly is a floating fly. When you use a dropper system in which the lead fly floats and the trail fly sinks, this is usually known as a "hopper dropper."

Posted on: 2010/3/12 15:39


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Here are illustrations of a couple multiple fly rigs that work, and some instructions on some common presentations for different situations:


http://stevenojai.tripod.com/nymph.htm

Posted on: 2010/3/12 15:58


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I always tie to the bend of the hook.. and then if you want some extra weight you can put shot on the tag from the clinch you tied to the bend... plus if you get stuck you only lose shot, not flies.

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ry,

Yea, I don't know really what to call it, but once your done, the leader is knotless.

I figured it out once while playing with a rope.

I will say I haven't noticed a difference in any method in catching more fish. I think the leader can push flies out of the mouth of fish, but I think that darn leader is needed to fish.

Posted on: 2010/3/12 20:00
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Off the bend--someone suggested that to me and for me, it works.

Emerger off a dry; two nymphs or weenie & nymph; bead head nymph off the bend of a wet fly/emerger,etc.

Posted on: 2010/3/13 7:20


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afish- why you be holding out on that link?

Best explaination I have ever seen.

Good one!!!!!!!

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Quote:

acristickid wrote:
afish- why you be holding out on that link?

Best explaination I have ever seen.

Good one!!!!!!!



Actually Kid, it's the second time I posted it in the beginners forum this week.

Posted on: 2010/3/13 9:15


Re: Droppers

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I always mash the barb down on my hooks, so I don't tie off the bend... Perhaps that makes a difference, perhaps it doesn't but I never had confidence in tying to the bend with 'barbless' hooks.

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wgmiller,

I tie off the bend and pinch down my barbs. So far I have had no problems with the dropper coming off.

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The only problem I've had with tying at the bend is if the fly is tied too far down the bend; like a caddis, or a curved hook. Then the tippet has a tendancy to get caught on the barb, or slide off on barbless.

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The only problem I have with tying a dropper off the eye (in a dry-dropper rig) is that the dropper has a tendency to make the dry float unnaturally. Then again, in these situations I tend to just have the dry fly on for an indicator and "just in case", I'm mostly fishing the dropper.

With the dropper-point configuration on a team of nymphs, the dropper tends to wrap around the leader. You can negate this somewhat by keeping the dropper line short and thick. But thick can equal less effective, and short means you only have one or two fly changes before having to retie the whole thing.

I haven't done it yet, but those O-ring things look nice for tying droppers, rather than the tag end thing.

Posted on: 2010/3/15 10:59



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