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Re: Convert me

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Everyone is totally right about fishing the way that you enjoy. If you become overly frustrated trying to fly fish and it makes you bonkers then it just isn't worth it. Maybe someday your perspective of the pastime will change.

As a point of reference for my own angling history I started out fishing as a kid and became an addict and could never, ever stop. That evolved into me mainly chasing bass and also working in some panfish and trout fishing. I had my nice expensive rods and beautiful spinning and baitcasting reels. I fished all year long and hard. I learned how to pull nice bass out of lakes and rivers no matter what time of the year it is through a lot of practice and yes, there were some days where all I got was cold and caught nothing.

About 6 years ago I think I bought one cheap fly rod outfit because I needed to evolve. My pouring of soft plastics and lead jig heads morphed into tying flies. All of my expensive spinning and baitcasting rods that once held high haven't been used at all (and I mean that, not once) since I bought my first for rod. Now I own a dozen for kids or so and solely fish with them. Sure I can't rip smallmouths out of a winter in January with a for rod as well as I can with a spinning rod, but I enjoy it more.

If you aren't ready to take up fly fishing that's fine. There are many other ways to catch trout other than fishing an inline spinner. Try working plastics on jigheads for trout. Try tying some of your own bucktail or marabou jugs for them. Fish hardbaits and search out some giant trout by throwing a 6 inch plug. There is a lot to fishing of all varieties, but fly fishing is by far the type that keeps me happiest, even if I dont catch a fish it is just more fun to me.

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Re: Convert me

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I fully mean this offer: if you would supply me with your address I will tie flies that can be used for trout, bass, and panfish and I'd be happy to mail you a box full. I would gladly offer my suggestions on how and when to fish them. Just remember that Spring is just around the corner and that soon the panfish will be getting very active. A nice local pond or public lake can be a great place to boost your confidence and catch some fish.

PM if you'd like to take me up on the offers of a box of flies.

Posted on: 2/7 14:08


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if you'd like to take me up on the offers of a box of flies.


You should take jfigz up on this offer. He ties some fantastic flies. Half the battle with fly fishing is being confident. This involves Not only knowing your flies have the potential to catch fish but also fishing productive water. Even still, as you pointed out, this is not a garuntee.

I fished bait and spinners for stocked trout all of my life prior to taking up fly fishing. I wanted and additional challenge and the ability to extend my fishing season so I bought a cheap Cabela’s set up. It took me about 2 months but I was finally able to land some wild trout and I have been hooked ever since.

Ditch the stockies and learn to enjoy and outing on secluded stream regaurdless of catch rate.

I did have one forum member help me out a lot and put me on fish. This helped my confidence level tremendously. I would suggest fishing wild brook trout streams in the spring. At the very least you will have fish rising to dry flies. Even if you don’t connect, you will be back at it the following weekend.

This is how the addiction starts!!!

Anyway, Dillsburg is close enough to the areas I fish. Pm me closer to springtime and I will put you on some fish water in York County.

Posted on: 2/7 20:10


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It doesn't sound like you're ready to fly fish. If you couldn't catch brook trout in baxter state park you're not going to do very well in the cumberland valley. If your goal is to catch fish get rid of the panther martin and drift salted minnows and blood worms.

Fixins? Did you get your orvis rod at Roy Rogers?

Posted on: 2/7 20:45


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One thing I have found out over the years is that fly fishing is not for everyone. Some people are just not ready to fly fish and some people will never be ready to fly fish. This is my 37th year of fly fishing, I started at age 15 with A five dollar yard sale rod and reel but had nobody to show me anything. The first few years I still used spinning gear way more than the fly rod but I kept trying. It took me to my late twenties with A wife and two kids at home that I NEEDED something to help me relax, and fly fishing did that for me. i have found out over the years though with being A Cubmaster in scouts and twenty years as an officer and president of A local sportmans club the best way to show people to fly fish is keep them off the trout streams and hit an open field pond with bluegills. No trees to snag on and A lot better chance of catching fish. Even then some people are just not meant to fly fish.

Posted on: 2/8 8:25


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Judging by the fact the OP hasn't logged in again since making the post, I'm wondering if we all didn't just take the bait here.

A lot of good, thoughtful responses and nice offers to help though.

Posted on: 2/8 9:55


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Well the original OP may not have read this thread, but I did and enjoyed it. 10 years ago I got back into trout fishing after a 30 year hiatus after a heart attack. I fished bass and saltwater those 30 years, but wanted something for after work to exercise and relax. Started where I left off with bait. A guy who is a member here was posting on another site about using rapalas and having better success than me. I asked a few questions and started fishing lures for trout and caught way more and had a ball with it. Never looked back to bait. Now reading his blog and seeing how he catches a lot of trout on flies in conditions where my spinning fell short I am going to seriously FF this spring. At age 59 1/2, I doubt I will ever master FFing but still want to learn how now that I am retired and can pick times to go when the streams are less crowded. I have caught trout on streamers, but want to learn nymph fishing. Can't wait! Enjoyed this thread.

I guess the point is it's not about converting but more about learning more about fishing and different techniques.

Posted on: 2/9 11:16


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I guess the point is it's not about converting but more about learning more about fishing and different techniques.


I'd love to teach you as much as I know..I'll even guide you for a full day on some of my favorite trout waters for the small price of a Genesee Cream Ale. ????

What are your questions and what do you want to know more about?

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Swattie is definitely on to something. Maybe we should start belittling the OP and draw him out of the woodpile.

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Re: Convert me

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reelinron wrote:

I guess the point is it's not about converting but more about learning more about fishing and different techniques.


I'd love to teach you as much as I know..I'll even guide you for a full day on some of my favorite trout waters for the small price of a Genesee Cream Ale. ????

What are your questions and what do you want to know more about?


OK, I want to know if most people fish multiple nymphs together? I want to know if a dropper or a line off the end of the first fly is better for beginners? I want to know if most beginners don't even recognize most bites? I want to know if an indicator is the best way for beginners? I want to know if trout know when things don't look right why I have read that wet flies can be retrieved up current? I know a lot of this will become clearer when I practice, but I ain't no spring chicken and don't have a life time to learn so I want to get up to speed as fast as I can.

Posted on: 2/9 19:15


Re: Convert me

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reelinron wrote:
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jifigz wrote:
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reelinron wrote:

I guess the point is it's not about converting but more about learning more about fishing and different techniques.


I'd love to teach you as much as I know..I'll even guide you for a full day on some of my favorite trout waters for the small price of a Genesee Cream Ale. ????

What are your questions and what do you want to know more about?


OK, I want to know if most people fish multiple nymphs together? I want to know if a dropper or a line off the end of the first fly is better for beginners? I want to know if most beginners don't even recognize most bites? I want to know if an indicator is the best way for beginners? I want to know if trout know when things don't look right why I have read that wet flies can be retrieved up current? I know a lot of this will become clearer when I practice, but I ain't no spring chicken and don't have a life time to learn so I want to get up to speed as fast as I can.

In order
1.Yes most people, not all, fish two nymphs where legal.
2. Beginners should start with one nymph, after you get comfortable try all the different ways to drop a fly and see what works best for you.
3. Most beginners and experienced fisherman miss alot of takes(I will try to find a video and post it)
4. I think so, it helps make the drag free drift concept easier. Remember the water on the bottom is slower than the top. Your indicator should be moving slower than the surface water.
5. Because there are nymphs that are strong swimmers.
Hope this helps.

Mods: didn't mean to hijack thread, please move if appropriate.

Posted on: 2/9 20:43

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Re: Convert me

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I'd love to teach you as much as I know..I'll even guide you for a full day on some of my favorite trout waters for the small price of a Genesee Cream Ale. ????


I didn't know Genesee Cream Ale was still available. I haven't had it in at least 40 years. I'll probably be disappointed. Memory is a funny thing, but maybe it will convert me!

Posted on: 2/9 21:01


Re: Convert me

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I'd love to teach you as much as I know..I'll even guide you for a full day on some of my favorite trout waters for the small price of a Genesee Cream Ale. ????


I didn't know Genesee Cream Ale was still available. I haven't had it in at least 40 years. I'll probably be disappointed. Memory is a funny thing, but maybe it will convert me!


Of course it is. I know my beer and various alcohol quite well. But Genny Cream Ale has held a special place in my heart for a long time. It isn't great but for the money it can't be beat.

Hopefully you can make it back to another jam here at my place. I want to plan it farther ahead and make sure I find someone to work for me and cover the winery so I can fish and float more..

Posted on: 2/10 22:48


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Much in the way of fly fishing wisdom has been offered in this thread, and the only place I'll make an argument is with regard to spinners inherently catching more trout than flies. That said, I have a few suggestions that may help:

--Learn about drag. With spinner fishing, your goal is drag, which is when your lure is being pulled against the current (which turns the spinner blade). For most fly fishing, most of the time, you want a dead drift, on the bottom. After I've been spinner fishing for a trip or two, I find it hard to get back to the dead drift of fly fishing. With spinner fishing, it's all about dragging the spinner through where you think the trout is. With most fly fishing, it is all about placing the fly at a spot upstream from where you think the fish is and getting it to sink to the fish's level, even as the fly looks like any other bug or piece of debris floating down the creek.

--The back cast so prominently featured in "A River Runs Through It" looks really cool, but in these parts, it is useful about a quarter to a third of the time. Master the roll cast. Learn about the bow and arrow cast (there's a cool Joe Humphreys video on youtube showing the roll cast). Most importantly: Master the roll cast (repetition intended!).

--If you are catching fish with spinners but not with flies on the same day on the same creek, are you getting hits on the fly but not setting the hook, or getting no hits? Either way you need to check your presentation and line management. If you are getting no hits, likely your line is hitting the water hard and putting fish down. Strictly speaking, the less line on the water, the better, because it casts a shadow and puts fish down. Best to have it drift over shallows and unproductive water. If you are getting hits but not hooking, likely you are not collecting your line as the fly drifts (that is to say, not keeping your line tight). This is like when you make a long cast with that Panther Martin on a windy day and the trout grabs the spinner on the fall, but you have too much line out to set the hook.

--Finally, it's a movie, not a fly casting lesson. Fly fishing looks cool, but it looks extra cool in that movie. For example, shadow casting, where the fly suspends in the air for a split second and the trout leaps out of the water to grab it, is essentially the same thing as using the Force from Star Wars to open a door or knock a battle droid out of action. Likewise, long casts are impressive to watch, but line management and hooking ability on long casts is extremely difficult.

The old school rule for starting out is to have a leader about the length of your rod, plus tippet (seven- to nine-foot tapered leader plus two feet of tippet for nine to 12 feet of leader). For most fishing, you will want to have a rod length to maybe a rod and a half length of line out. Rod length, plus line out, plus leader length means you are about 20 to 25 feet from the fish you are after. That means you needs to think about your approach to the hole, as you would with a spinner, but your approach needs to be inherently different from when you are tossing a spinner because of the whole drag vs. no drag thing.

From here, there are many more chapters, refining leader making, rod length and action choices, micro-drag, dry fly fishing, true wet fly fishing and streamer fishing, Euro/tight-line drifting, not to mention a million other variables. This is why trout fishing is so addicting. The more you learn, the more questions you have.

Posted on: 2/11 10:59


Re: Convert me

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Of course it is. I know my beer and various alcohol quite well. But Genny Cream Ale has held a special place in my heart for a long time. It isn't great but for the money it can't be beat.



Blasphemer.

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